[Northkeep] "Put out that bloody cigare..." *

Cheryl Kiel azuredecodragon at yahoo.com
Fri May 8 16:48:32 PDT 2009


hell if we've gotta be that frickin PC now lets at least be allowed to have some fun with it.
I'd be willing to come out of hiding & help make the buttons.


From: ld.blackmoon <ld.blackmoon at cox.net>
To: The Barony of Northkeep <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 6:44:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Northkeep] "Put out that bloody cigare..." *


sorry , can't resist , ; )

if they have a " service " auction, does the winning bidder get a button that says       " i was serviced by __________ "     ????
; )
Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun
----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Schorn" <peterschorn at pdq.net>
To: <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 6:33 PM
Subject: [Northkeep] "Put out that bloody cigare..." *

> Well, why not call them "service auctions" instead?  Because that's what
> you're really auctioning, isn't it?
>> The auctions I've seen over the years were always called "slave" auctions.
>> Everyone understood they were done for fun, and usually the auctioneer
>> outlined what the slaves could be used for.  They were raucous, a little
>> raunchy, definitely rowdy, and always a riot (in the good sense).
> I don't doubt this was the case.  However, just because you haven't had
> trouble in the past doesn't mean other people haven't--or that we shouldn't
> learn from their example.
> Because I can offer counter-examples of civic and campus groups that held
> "slave auctions" and got slammed for it in the media.  Yes, I know it's bad
> for the media to exercise its power in this way.  But it does, and I don't
> see why we should make the SCA in general or Northkeep in particular a
> target for it.
> I referred to the BoD because they have the power of sanction against both
> individuals _and groups_ that they feel are putting the SCA in
> danger--including the danger of bad publicity.  So even if we escape
> notoriety in the press, the BoD could well be inclined to take pre-emptive
> action to preclude future risk.  And if we do attract notoriety--do you
> think the BoD will defend our right to hold slave-auctions?
> (Bear in mind that we are governed by a corporation seated in Marin County,
> California.  Look that up on Google Earth.  Notice where it is.  And ask
> yourself how charitably people there might view a bunch of Midwesterners
> playing at slave-games).
> I don't doubt the goodness of anybody's motives or the innocence of
> anybody's intentions.  I know they are all of the best. But I think you've
> got a blind spot here and in that blind spot lies some risk--avoidable,
> unnecessary and considerable risk-- to the SCA from the media, and to
> Northkeep from the BoD.  I am trying to warn you of that risk.
> It's like...we're all in a trench during wartime, at night, and you want to
> smoke a cigarette.  Now, though I don't smoke myself, I don't have any
> objections to you smoking--*but*not*here,*not*now.* Because if you do, you
> could attract a sniper or a shell. And that would be very, very bad for all
> of us, not just you.
> Please consider what I have said.  Please consider at least changing the
> name to "service auction"--I've never heard of one of those getting ripped
> by the media.
> Please don't take a risk that endangers those who didn't consent to take it.
> --Cadfan
> *Last words of Hector Hugo Munro (1870-1916), better known as the author
> "Saki."  Killed by a German sniper in the trenches of World War I.
> Interestingly, he had written the following poem:
> "It's three no trumps" the soldier said.
> A sniper's bullet struck him dead.
> His cards bedecked the trench's bottom:
> A comrade peered--"Yep, he'd a' got 'em."
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