[Northkeep] "Put out that bloody cigare..." *

ld.blackmoon ld.blackmoon at cox.net
Fri May 8 18:54:38 PDT 2009


greetings

ok, so i have to admit i'm a dirty old man ; )
i may be odd, or wierd, but i'm rarely boring = )
Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun
Arthur
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cheryl Kiel" <azuredecodragon at yahoo.com>
To: "The Barony of Northkeep" <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Northkeep] "Put out that bloody cigare..." *


> hehehehhehe
> GO ARTHUR!!
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> hell if we've gotta be that frickin PC now lets at least be allowed to 
> have some fun with it.
> I'd be willing to come out of hiding & help make the buttons.
>
> Tamberlin
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> ________________________________
> From: ld.blackmoon <ld.blackmoon at cox.net>
> To: The Barony of Northkeep <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 6:44:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Northkeep] "Put out that bloody cigare..." *
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> greetings
>
> sorry , can't resist , ; )
>
> if they have a " service " auction, does the winning bidder get a button 
> that says       " i was serviced by __________ "     ????
> ; )
> Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun
> Arthur
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Schorn" <peterschorn at pdq.net>
> To: <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 6:33 PM
> Subject: [Northkeep] "Put out that bloody cigare..." *
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>> Well, why not call them "service auctions" instead?  Because that's what
>> you're really auctioning, isn't it?
>>
>>> The auctions I've seen over the years were always called "slave" 
>>> auctions.
>>> Everyone understood they were done for fun, and usually the auctioneer
>>> outlined what the slaves could be used for.  They were raucous, a little
>>> raunchy, definitely rowdy, and always a riot (in the good sense).
>>
>> I don't doubt this was the case.  However, just because you haven't had
>> trouble in the past doesn't mean other people haven't--or that we 
>> shouldn't
>> learn from their example.
>>
>> Because I can offer counter-examples of civic and campus groups that held
>> "slave auctions" and got slammed for it in the media.  Yes, I know it's 
>> bad
>> for the media to exercise its power in this way.  But it does, and I 
>> don't
>> see why we should make the SCA in general or Northkeep in particular a
>> target for it.
>>
>> I referred to the BoD because they have the power of sanction against 
>> both
>> individuals _and groups_ that they feel are putting the SCA in
>> danger--including the danger of bad publicity.  So even if we escape
>> notoriety in the press, the BoD could well be inclined to take 
>> pre-emptive
>> action to preclude future risk.  And if we do attract notoriety--do you
>> think the BoD will defend our right to hold slave-auctions?
>>
>> (Bear in mind that we are governed by a corporation seated in Marin 
>> County,
>> California.  Look that up on Google Earth.  Notice where it is.  And ask
>> yourself how charitably people there might view a bunch of Midwesterners
>> playing at slave-games).
>>
>> I don't doubt the goodness of anybody's motives or the innocence of
>> anybody's intentions.  I know they are all of the best. But I think 
>> you've
>> got a blind spot here and in that blind spot lies some risk--avoidable,
>> unnecessary and considerable risk-- to the SCA from the media, and to
>> Northkeep from the BoD.  I am trying to warn you of that risk.
>>
>> It's like...we're all in a trench during wartime, at night, and you want 
>> to
>> smoke a cigarette.  Now, though I don't smoke myself, I don't have any
>> objections to you smoking--*but*not*here,*not*now.* Because if you do, 
>> you
>> could attract a sniper or a shell. And that would be very, very bad for 
>> all
>> of us, not just you.
>>
>> Please consider what I have said.  Please consider at least changing the
>> name to "service auction"--I've never heard of one of those getting 
>> ripped
>> by the media.
>>
>> Please don't take a risk that endangers those who didn't consent to take 
>> it.
>>
>> --Cadfan
>>
>> *Last words of Hector Hugo Munro (1870-1916), better known as the author
>> "Saki."  Killed by a German sniper in the trenches of World War I.
>> Interestingly, he had written the following poem:
>>
>> "It's three no trumps" the soldier said.
>> A sniper's bullet struck him dead.
>> His cards bedecked the trench's bottom:
>> A comrade peered--"Yep, he'd a' got 'em."
>>
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