[Northkeep] Chariot troubles

Wed Jul 14 11:40:15 PDT 2010

Have you taken it to auto zone and have them plug into the brain to do a diagnostic?

Rene Shepard  (918) 851-4822

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Subject: Northkeep Digest, Vol 51, Issue 14
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Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 9:41 AM

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   1. A call for help, We tried and failed. (facon at cox.net)
   2. Re: A call for help, We tried and failed. (ksullivan6 at cox.net)
   3. Re: A call for help, We tried and failed. (Jon Eppler)
   4. Re: A call for help, We tried and failed. (Bill Yanak)
   5. Re: A call for help, We tried and failed. (teresa hardy)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:38:30 -0400
From: <facon at cox.net>
To: The Barony of Northkeep <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: [Northkeep] A call for help, We tried and failed.
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Greetings unto the populous, more specifically those that are mechanically inclined,

I ask for advice, my chariot has been experiencing problems for a while now, Arthur(whom has been wonderful trying to help me work this out)  and I are stumped.  I am already $450 dollars into trying to figure out the problem to no avail and dont have the resources to keep fishing in the dark, so I am hopeful someone might be able to assist in figuring out the problem, so here is what is going on and what we have done:

My jeep keep heating up, not always overheating but running hot often on warm days.  It started this last summer, when I had the oil changed and transmission fluid and filter changed, it seemed to stop doing it but that was going into fall when the temp dropped. As soon as we hit 90's again the problem returned.  She will run fine for a while at normal temp then for no known reason will start to heat up.  It heats up the worse in town street driving, she runs a little warm on the highway but doesnt usually get too bad(though it has happend once or twice), she mostly threatens to over heat from street driving.  Sometimes when she gets real hot and I pull over and let her cool down, if I wait a few minutes and start her back up, the temp will drop on its own again, not back to normal but much closer.

What has been done:  (Arthur please feel free to jump in with anything you think I might have missed or to add further commentary)

Put it in the shop at hibdon to get the system flushed and oil change, while there they discoved that the lower hose was very swelled so that was replaced as well as the therostat.  They did not state about any contaminents in my oil.

Didnt help continued to heat up.  So Arthur and I removed the water pump which seems to be in good working order, tested the thermostat on the stove which seems to be in good working order at proper temp, the water flows easily from top radiator hose to lower hose, water flows easily from overflow(which is the only place to put in coolant, there is not radiator cap) to the water pump, replaced the engine coolant sensor(the one that actually screws in the engine), keep checking the fan when it gets hot and it is always running, no condesation or fluid seen in tailpipe. The only other thing that has been suggested is the Radiator fan relay, while we think we have located it, dont have a way of testing it. 

I am currently very restricted on my travel, in town Fighter practice and Officers/Populous is about the max range I can make before she starts getting hot.  While she runs cooler on the highway I dont trust going out of town with it since it is an unknown issue.  Any assistance that could be offered would most surly be appreciated.

Thanks to all,

Facon

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:44:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: ksullivan6 at cox.net
To: The Barony of Northkeep <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Northkeep] A call for help, We tried and failed.
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I  had a simular problem with a car I had a few years ago, turned out it 
was the transmission causing the problem
Alix

Work hard,keep the ceremonies,live peaceably, and unite your hearts.
(Hopi)

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:38 AM, facon at cox.net wrote:

> Greetings unto the populous, more specifically those that are 
> mechanically inclined,
>
> I ask for advice, my chariot has been experiencing problems for a 
> while now, Arthur(whom has been wonderful trying to help me work this 
> out)  and I are stumped.  I am already $450 dollars into trying to 
> figure out the problem to no avail and dont have the resources to keep 
> fishing in the dark, so I am hopeful someone might be able to assist 
> in figuring out the problem, so here is what is going on and what we 
> have done:
>
> My jeep keep heating up, not always overheating but running hot often 
> on warm days.  It started this last summer, when I had the oil changed 
> and transmission fluid and filter changed, it seemed to stop doing it 
> but that was going into fall when the temp dropped. As soon as we hit 
> 90's again the problem returned.  She will run fine for a while at 
> normal temp then for no known reason will start to heat up.  It heats 
> up the worse in town street driving, she runs a little warm on the 
> highway but doesnt usually get too bad(though it has happend once or 
> twice), she mostly threatens to over heat from street driving. 
> Sometimes when she gets real hot and I pull over and let her cool 
> down, if I wait a few minutes and start her back up, the temp will 
> drop on its own again, not back to normal but much closer.
>
> What has been done:  (Arthur please feel free to jump in with anything 
> you think I might have missed or to add further commentary)
>
> Put it in the shop at hibdon to get the system flushed and oil change, 
> while there they discoved that the lower hose was very swelled so that 
> was replaced as well as the therostat.  They did not state about any 
> contaminents in my oil.
>
> Didnt help continued to heat up.  So Arthur and I removed the water 
> pump which seems to be in good working order, tested the thermostat on 
> the stove which seems to be in good working order at proper temp, the 
> water flows easily from top radiator hose to lower hose, water flows 
> easily from overflow(which is the only place to put in coolant, there 
> is not radiator cap) to the water pump, replaced the engine coolant 
> sensor(the one that actually screws in the engine), keep checking the 
> fan when it gets hot and it is always running, no condesation or fluid 
> seen in tailpipe. The only other thing that has been suggested is the 
> Radiator fan relay, while we think we have located it, dont have a way 
> of testing it.
> I am currently very restricted on my travel, in town Fighter practice 
> and Officers/Populous is about the max range I can make before she 
> starts getting hot.  While she runs cooler on the highway I dont trust 
> going out of town with it since it is an unknown issue.  Any 
> assistance that could be offered would most surly be appreciated.
>
> Thanks to all,
>
> Facon
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 10:47:09 -0500
From: Jon Eppler <jon.d.eppler at gmail.com>
To: The Barony of Northkeep <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Northkeep] A call for help, We tried and failed.
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Per our conversation the other day you may borrow my station wagon for
a bit.  It has no AC but you can use it.

Johann

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:38 AM,  <facon at cox.net> wrote:
> Greetings unto the populous, more specifically those that are mechanically inclined,
>
> I ask for advice, my chariot has been experiencing problems for a while now, Arthur(whom has been wonderful trying to help me work this out) ?and I are stumped. ?I am already $450 dollars into trying to figure out the problem to no avail and dont have the resources to keep fishing in the dark, so I am hopeful someone might be able to assist in figuring out the problem, so here is what is going on and what we have done:
>
> My jeep keep heating up, not always overheating but running hot often on warm days. ?It started this last summer, when I had the oil changed and transmission fluid and filter changed, it seemed to stop doing it but that was going into fall when the temp dropped. As soon as we hit 90's again the problem returned. ?She will run fine for a while at normal temp then for no known reason will start to heat up. ?It heats up the worse in town street driving, she runs a little warm on the highway but doesnt usually get too bad(though it has happend once or twice), she mostly threatens to over heat from street driving. ?Sometimes when she gets real hot and I pull over and let her cool down, if I wait a few minutes and start her back up, the temp will drop on its own again, not back to normal but much closer.
>
> What has been done: ?(Arthur please feel free to jump in with anything you think I might have missed or to add further commentary)
>
> Put it in the shop at hibdon to get the system flushed and oil change, while there they discoved that the lower hose was very swelled so that was replaced as well as the therostat. ?They did not state about any contaminents in my oil.
>
> Didnt help continued to heat up. ?So Arthur and I removed the water pump which seems to be in good working order, tested the thermostat on the stove which seems to be in good working order at proper temp, the water flows easily from top radiator hose to lower hose, water flows easily from overflow(which is the only place to put in coolant, there is not radiator cap) to the water pump, replaced the engine coolant sensor(the one that actually screws in the engine), keep checking the fan when it gets hot and it is always running, no condesation or fluid seen in tailpipe. The only other thing that has been suggested is the Radiator fan relay, while we think we have located it, dont have a way of testing it.
>
> I am currently very restricted on my travel, in town Fighter practice and Officers/Populous is about the max range I can make before she starts getting hot. ?While she runs cooler on the highway I dont trust going out of town with it since it is an unknown issue. ?Any assistance that could be offered would most surly be appreciated.
>
> Thanks to all,
>
> Facon
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>

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 09:30:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Yanak <invincobil at yahoo.com>
To: The Barony of Northkeep <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Northkeep] A call for help, We tried and failed.
Message-ID: <36870.86303.qm at web59608.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
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I had some similar problems with my auto.Things to check:coolant(correct kind 
for auto) to water mix correct:Make sure that trans cooling lines are free from 
obstruction(easy to check out by removing lines and purging) The only other 
thing I can think of is that you might have a partly clogged core in radiator or 
completely clogged section.This however requires a radiator specialist and is 
not cheap.Remember with time all holes,cooling jackets,oils and other fluids do 
build up and create narrower passages.Hope this helps,Mine was radiator(half 
dead,but working kinda) and plugged trans cooling lines.Had them replaced and no 
problems since.Hope this might help you.

Good luck,
William

p.s an affordable and reliable,quick mechanic Nick Celli. 836-8288 or cell 
381-5685 ASE certified

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From: "facon at cox.net" <facon at cox.net>
To: The Barony of Northkeep <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 10:38:30 AM
Subject: [Northkeep] A call for help, We tried and failed.

Greetings unto the populous, more specifically those that are mechanically 
inclined,

I ask for advice, my chariot has been experiencing problems for a while now, 
Arthur(whom has been wonderful trying to help me work this out)  and I are 
stumped.  I am already $450 dollars into trying to figure out the problem to no 
avail and dont have the resources to keep fishing in the dark, so I am hopeful 
someone might be able to assist in figuring out the problem, so here is what is 
going on and what we have done:

My jeep keep heating up, not always overheating but running hot often on warm 
days.  It started this last summer, when I had the oil changed and transmission 
fluid and filter changed, it seemed to stop doing it but that was going into 
fall when the temp dropped. As soon as we hit 90's again the problem returned.  
She will run fine for a while at normal temp then for no known reason will start 
to heat up.  It heats up the worse in town street driving, she runs a little 
warm on the highway but doesnt usually get too bad(though it has happend once or 
twice), she mostly threatens to over heat from street driving.  Sometimes when 
she gets real hot and I pull over and let her cool down, if I wait a few minutes 
and start her back up, the temp will drop on its own again, not back to normal 
but much closer.

What has been done:  (Arthur please feel free to jump in with anything you think 
I might have missed or to add further commentary)

Put it in the shop at hibdon to get the system flushed and oil change, while 
there they discoved that the lower hose was very swelled so that was replaced as 
well as the therostat.  They did not state about any contaminents in my oil.

Didnt help continued to heat up.  So Arthur and I removed the water pump which 
seems to be in good working order, tested the thermostat on the stove which 
seems to be in good working order at proper temp, the water flows easily from 
top radiator hose to lower hose, water flows easily from overflow(which is the 
only place to put in coolant, there is not radiator cap) to the water pump, 
replaced the engine coolant sensor(the one that actually screws in the engine), 
keep checking the fan when it gets hot and it is always running, no condesation 
or fluid seen in tailpipe. The only other thing that has been suggested is the 
Radiator fan relay, while we think we have located it, dont have a way of 
testing it. 

I am currently very restricted on my travel, in town Fighter practice and 
Officers/Populous is about the max range I can make before she starts getting 
hot.  While she runs cooler on the highway I dont trust going out of town with 
it since it is an unknown issue.  Any assistance that could be offered would 
most surly be appreciated.

Thanks to all,

Facon
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 09:32:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: teresa hardy <tresehardy at yahoo.com>
To: The Barony of Northkeep <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Northkeep] A call for help, We tried and failed.
Message-ID: <212984.84997.qm at web36406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

i can only assisstance with rides if you or anadi need transportation. not mechanically incline. sorry.Eve

--- On Wed, 7/14/10, facon at cox.net <facon at cox.net> wrote:

From: facon at cox.net <facon at cox.net>
Subject: [Northkeep] A call for help, We tried and failed.
To: "The Barony of Northkeep" <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 10:38 AM

Greetings unto the populous, more specifically those that are mechanically inclined,

I ask for advice, my chariot has been experiencing problems for a while now, Arthur(whom has been wonderful trying to help me work this out)? and I are stumped.? I am already $450 dollars into trying to figure out the problem to no avail and dont have the resources to keep fishing in the dark, so I am hopeful someone might be able to assist in figuring out the problem, so here is what is going on and what we have done:

My jeep keep heating up, not always overheating but running hot often on warm days.? It started this last summer, when I had the oil changed and transmission fluid and filter changed, it seemed to stop doing it but that was going into fall when the temp dropped. As soon as we hit 90's again the problem returned.? She will run fine for a while at normal temp then for no known reason will start to heat up.? It heats up the worse in town street driving, she runs a little warm on the highway but doesnt usually get too bad(though it has happend once or twice), she mostly threatens to over heat from street driving.? Sometimes when she gets real hot and I pull over and let her cool down, if I wait a few minutes and start her back up, the temp will drop on its own again, not back to normal but much closer.

What has been done:? (Arthur please feel free to jump in with anything you think I might have missed or to add further commentary)

Put it in the shop at hibdon to get the system flushed and oil change, while there they discoved that the lower hose was very swelled so that was replaced as well as the therostat.? They did not state about any contaminents in my oil.

Didnt help continued to heat up.? So Arthur and I removed the water pump which seems to be in good working order, tested the thermostat on the stove which seems to be in good working order at proper temp, the water flows easily from top radiator hose to lower hose, water flows easily from overflow(which is the only place to put in coolant, there is not radiator cap) to the water pump, replaced the engine coolant sensor(the one that actually screws in the engine), keep checking the fan when it gets hot and it is always running, no condesation or fluid seen in tailpipe. The only other thing that has been suggested is the Radiator fan relay, while we think we have located it, dont have a way of testing it. 

I am currently very restricted on my travel, in town Fighter practice and Officers/Populous is about the max range I can make before she starts getting hot.? While she runs cooler on the highway I dont trust going out of town with it since it is an unknown issue.? Any assistance that could be offered would most surly be appreciated.

Thanks to all,

Facon
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