[Northkeep] Census What does it mean
Ld.blackmoon
ld.blackmoon at cox.net
Sun Nov 28 11:09:12 PST 2010
greetings
it could also mean that there are a lot of ex ansteorrans that are still on
the lists, even if not playing.
and that a large portion of ansteorras active population doesn't feel the
need to fill out surveys, even if it may help get soeme old members back, or
help retain new ones : / ..
whats bad is that of ansteorras population of 1700 paid members, ( found
the lost pages ; ) , only 541 paid members have taken the survey .......
thats less than the northern region alone . ( 562 northern paid members ),
and the number of non member and ex members having already taken the poll,
together
( 276 non members & ex members ) comes close to the total population of the
coastal region .( 321 coastal paid members ) .
looked up info from original post ,
http://www.sca.org/scacensus2010/index.html theres a link to the
breakdown info there.
population counts are from may 2010 counts and are available here :
http://seneschal.ansteorra.org/info.html
Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
Arthur
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Carlson" <marccarlson20 at hotmail.com>
To: "List Northkeep" <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Northkeep] Census What does it mean
>
>> From: willowdewisp at juno.com
>> This kind of survey can be twisted to mean anything...
>
> Certainly - and the first way to skew a survey is to add bad data, and the
> second is to
> withhold data. That's even before you get to statistical higglety-piggery
> that can show
> up when people try to use the data to support their pet theories, instead
> of using the
> evidence to disprove hypotheses, and construct better hypotheses that meet
> the
> evidence.
>
> OTOH, working with no data at all does mean that all you are going to get
> is personal
> opinions driving decisions.
>
> I agree with you that this is a good thing, regarding the people who have
> left, since they
> are a population who may have some useful information to share. We may
> suppose that
> "well, they left, who gives a rip what they have to say", and that's valid
> to a point. But it
> might be good to try to be more welcoming to those who have chosen to
> leave.
>
> That there were people who bothered to respond who were no longer active
> members,
> would be an interesting bit of data - and if the number is, as has been
> reported, a higher
> percentage of respondents who are former members in Ansteorra than
> anywhere else,
> this could mean a couple of things. Ansteorra has a naturally small
> population but maintains
> good communications ties with former member (which is nice and makes us
> look good), or
> we have a serious retention problem in Ansteorra (which has some serious
> implications
> regarding the health of the Kingdom). There are certainly options, but
> these mark the
> extremes.
>
> Just as a point of personal curiosity, where did those figures come from?
> The census was
> not supposed to release its results until after it was closed.
>
> M/D
>
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