[Northkeep] solutions to Northkeep problems

[Hugh & Belinda Niewoehner]

Thank you Ivo, I was going to ask if the people in Calvary, Canada 
laughed at anyone from the US calling themselves Northerners.

/*However*/, my suggestion was more a continuation of what we are 
already referred to as "the Northern Region", but using the North Star 
as a symbol was to me a matter of thinking of it as a navigational tool, 
an inspiration, a sign of hope to the lost sailor, etc.  It is a star of 
greater magnitude than most, a shining example.  But more importantly, 
it would also be relatively simple to draw which I hope, no matter what 
we decide on, will still be true.  With a straight edge even I can do a 
version of the compass star.

Actually, I still like Quivarra for a name.  But so many people do 
identify with the region's long held designation so I felt if we do 
choose to go with it as a name let us please use the language of the 
realm, English, and not whatever concoction "Nordsteorra" comes from. 
Arthur gave only a few of my reasons for disliking that version.

As to colors, Damon Xanthus' made a very good case.

I do not know what our new brothers and sisters from the former Western 
Region think and would welcome their opinion.  However, they have now 
been joined to something called "the Northern Region".  I would like 
them to feel a part of us, but am not sure how to express that in 
symbolism, naming, etc.

Hoping I did not cause offense,

Ismet



On 3/26/2011 9:49 AM, Cisco Cividanes wrote:
> Below is opinion, and if anyone is actually offended, please contact me
> directly and say as much, the last thing I want to do is set off a fire
> storm.
>
> Directional and positional terms are almost always relative, unless you're
> taking about real estate at the north pole. I have to wonder what Canadian's
> say when they hear people from Maryland, New York, or Jew Jersey refer to
> themselves as "northerners". We popularly refer to the Asian continent as
> the "east" or the "far east", even though most international flights from
> the US to Asia travel west to get there. The "midwest" of the US is actually
> east of more than 45% of the country's population. The "middle east" is not
> in the middle of any continent, and depending on what continent you are
> standing on, it can be on one of several very different points of the
> compass. North Carolina is considerably south of South Dakota, and their
> weather patterns reflect their locations.
>
> I'm sorry, but the idea that just because someone has land farther north
> than us we should be precluded from calling ourselves "the north" or some
> variation off of that theme, just does not hold water for me. Weather or not
> we use the name, or idea of "north" in a regional name will likely be
> decided after a long and tedious process that takes into account a great
> many thoughts on the subject, but as an individual, I identify with the
> title of "northern Ansteorran" relatively strongly.
>
> Ivo Blackhawk
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Marc Carlson<marccarlson20 at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>>> From: jack_a_lope31 at hotmail.com
>>> (born and raised in Minnesota, motto: "le toile du nord" or....the star
>> of the north)
>>
>> Having lived in the North Star State, it sounds stupid coming this par of
>> the state.
>>
>> M/D
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