[Northkeep] Fighter practice

[Tamara Britton]

Thank you Adalia. I personally haven't witnessed the past month as I stop by after my pm class to say Hi and pick up waivers before heading home. So I haven't stayed long enough to see anybody clean lately. 


Your suggestion of a list makes perfect sense as does your input about autism. I know a lot of people who come to use the facility aren't physically capable of doing much in the way of labor or cleaning, and some of the ones who can clean are feeling like they are the only ones who clean every week. So, even if this particular group were asked to clean bathrooms every other week to give the regular cleaners a break from that part, and then put up chairs the next week, that would keep the peace, in my opinion.

I believe I will talk it over with Sarran personally. He and I will come up with a solution, and put it into effect.

Thank you everyone for your input and words. Sarran and I will take care of it from here. I don't think the ones in mention are subscribed to the list, so this topic needs no further discussion.


Dervilia
Seneschal


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From: Adalia <adalia.nyx at gmail.com>
To: Tamara Britton <zeurburt2003 at yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Northkeep] Fighter practice


Is it possible that perhaps their help is simply going unseen or perhaps the amount they are helping isn't up to someone's expectations?  

I personally spoke to that group of individuals over a month ago and ever since then whenever we tell them it's time to stack the chairs, they gather their stuff and start putting the chairs up.  Yes, there's more they could do....and that's true for most of us...we could all do more...but to say they aren't helping at all is simply not true.  No, they don't sweep or mop....and to my knowledge, they don't clean the bathrooms....and, quite frankly, they are perfectly capable of doing all of those things, but one must remember that half (and I'm not exaggerating) HALF of that group of 'young adults' is made up of austistic adults who can't find what needs to be done and do it.  They have to be told.  They have to have a list and a schedule.  

They'll do whatever we ask of them...if we ask in a way that their autism will allow them to understand.

If we can put together a list of the jobs that this group is EXPECTED to do every week, then I will happily take the point position in seeing that it happens....

Let me know if there's anything else I can do....


On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Tamara Britton <zeurburt2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:

What Sarran is referring to are the young people who show up and play games every week but do not participate in cleaning whatsoever. These are not the children, but the younger adults who don't participate in any cleaning even when they have been asked and have been told the site is not free, but requires cleaning instead of a site fee.
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>From: Kevinkeary <kevinkeary at aol.com>
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>Subject: Re: [Northkeep] Fighter practice
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>What happened? I was not in attendance, but when I am, I do participate in the cleaning, as do my children.
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>If this is the will of the fighter community, so be it. We know we were there only at your sufferance. On a night when there was to be no place for us, I allowed my concern for my wife's health to supersede my feelings of obligation to the community.
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>I HAVE gone and cleaned on nights when there was no fighter practice, because the majority of the heavy fighters were at Gulf War. Obviously, we didn't game then, either.
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>Peace,
>Kevin
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>    After the events of last night there will be no gaming allowed at fighter
>ractice. I stated that if you use the VFW you must help clean. I am not a baby
>itter. Everyone knows by now what needs to be done. If you don't know what to
>o it is your responsibility to ask. For those who did clean,  thank you.
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