[Northkeep] VFW hall help

Thu Jan 19 09:26:35 PST 2012

greetings

the masons are also a national membership, but each group sets its own 
membership rates.
if you want to make consistant money on those pancake breakfasts, better 
drop them to once a month, or people will slowly stop coming ( from 
experience again ).
standard fare at a " pancake " breakfast, is pancakes, sausage or bacon ( 
sometimes both ) some places also have scrambled eggs , toast, coffee, milk, 
ice water, tea ,orange juice. some places, its a one plate price, others its 
a eat till your full price, but they usualy average $5. to $7.00 per plate.
most commonly $5.00 for an all you can eat.

Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
Arthur

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Kaun" <jack_a_lope31 at hotmail.com>
To: <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Northkeep] VFW hall help

>
>
> I do not believe that membership rates could be increased.  The VFW is a 
> national organization so is unable to raise its membership rates for a 
> local group.
>
> I think that the large open spaces and the kitchen may be the key.  It 
> would be some work but have they ever thought of pancake breakfasts, fish 
> fries and other things like that?  It is possible to make decent money 
> just doing that 4 times a month.  Pancakes are cheap to make and at $4-$5 
> a head, a stack and a cup o' joe will fill up most folks and have a very 
> low overhead.
>
> A fish fry is possible but probably not as often (depending upon how many 
> fisherman there are and how good they are)
>
>
>> On 1/18/12, Ld.blackmoon <ld.blackmoon at cox.net> wrote:
>> > greetings
>> >
>> > how much money do they need to raise per year to stay open ?
>> > have they looked at membership rate increases ? I know every nonprofit 
>> > I'm
>> > part of has had to raise membership rates including the sca.
>> >
>> > also , have they thought of changing their image ?( they are more than 
>> > the
>> > old people selling paper poppies on veterans day , but how many people 
>> > know
>> > that ? ) &
>> > ( most of the new vets from overseas are much younger than their normal
>> > membership base )
>> > ( thanks to the government, there is no longer a shortage of veterans 
>> > who
>> > have served over seas during a time of war )
>> > with all the new veterans who now qualify , by having served in war 
>> > time, in
>> > a different country, have they thought about recruiting new members 
>> > from
>> > that group ?
>> > have they thought of perhaps doing a historical display , maybe once or
>> > twice a year , with pic's and other memorabilia from their time in war 
>> > zones
>> > ? kind of an evolving time capsule of the people who lived through what
>> > others only read about in the papers, or history books ? they could 
>> > charge
>> > admission, as well as run the snack bar for profit,advertise for free 
>> > on the
>> > internet, on the TV and radio " public announcements " same in the 
>> > paper.
>> > get the public involved, advertise to the history buffs, the war 
>> > gamers,
>> > even vets that served in the years of no f.w.
>> > if they don't have enough active members to work the display / show/ 
>> > what
>> > ever , have they thought of offering free entry to the members of 
>> > another
>> > group that uses the building if they spend " x " amount of time working 
>> > the
>> > display / show ? or maybe discounted tickets for that groups other 
>> > members
>> > who aren't / cant work the display / show, but would like to see it ?
>> > and do they have something like a " perpetual membership ?
>> > if they don't they may wish to look into it, members pay like 15 years 
>> > worth
>> > of membership dues at one time, the person never has to pay dues again 
>> > for
>> > as long as he / she lives,the money goes into an interest bearing 
>> > account
>> > ( or investments depending on how they want to do it ) and the money 
>> > from
>> > all of these earns interest / value , from then on, the deposits can 
>> > never
>> > be withdrawn, only the interest / capital gains . so the group makes 
>> > money
>> > even after the person dies ( as long as the ones using the market don't
>> > guess wrong and lose money )
>> >
>> > anyway , just a few questions and suggestions off the top of my head .
>> >
>> > Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
>> > Arthur
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Kenneth Smith" <ulfarnfinnson at yahoo.com>
>> > To: "The Baronyof Northkeep" <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>;
>> > <NorthkeepFighters at yahoogroups.com>; <Northern at lists.ansteorra.org>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:57 AM
>> > Subject: [Northkeep] VFW hall help
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > They are in need of our help. It seems that they are in a low cash flow
>> > situation and closing the hall is becoming a real but bad option for 
>> > them.
>> > They use to have Bingo bringing in some money to pay the bills but it 
>> > is not
>> > what it use to be and now they are having trouble with the operator of 
>> > it.
>> > They have probably enough money to keep the hall open for about 20 
>> > months
>> > and then they will have to shut it down completely. They did not come 
>> > to me
>> > about money and do not necessarily want donations from our members, 
>> > although
>> > they do take them. What they want is ideas. Their members are 
>> > brainstorming
>> > on ideas on how to make money for the hall. They have asked us since we 
>> > use
>> > the hall for our practice if our members might have any ideas. Besides 
>> > the
>> > obvious ones like holding shows or concerts there they would like 
>> > others.
>> > The other problem they have is execution of these endeavors. For they 
>> > have
>> > had shows in the past but have lost money on
>> > them because of lack of expertise on these things and volunteers to 
>> > help
>> > with them. Hate to say this they are a dying breed. They have had a big 
>> > drop
>> > in membership over the years. So I am throwing this out there not just 
>> > for
>> > us but a whole group of veterans who need our help. If you have 
>> > thoughts on
>> > how to raise sustainable funds or the expertise to help with getting 
>> > these
>> > kinda things off the ground please let me know. Its not about us 
>> > loosing a
>> > site to practice at because we can go anywhere. Its about history of 
>> > that
>> > building. Its about giving back to those who have given so much for all 
>> > of
>> > us. They will be having a brainstorming meeting on Feb. 4 at the hall
>> > starting at 10:00am and we have been invited. But you can always send 
>> > your
>> > thoughts and ideas to me to pass along as well. They know we have many
>> > members that might have some great ideas and would like to tape into 
>> > that
>> > knowlege. Thanks for your time.
>> > Sir Ulf Arnfinnson CSS LXXIX
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