[Northkeep] VFW hall help

Thu Jan 19 09:40:15 PST 2012

greetings

yea, see the advertising is the big thing, even if the breakfasts/ events 
are always on the same day of the month, people forget, and new people dont 
know.
people have them all the time , but if they arent well advertised,  only 
local members come to them ( if they remember ). the key isnt to sell to 
just your members, but to the public .
it's like standing in your house looking outside and saying " theres free 
oil out there" then digging in the garage to see if you can use oil you've 
already got
( it's self sufficient, but brings in no new "oil " .

just a thought
Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
Arthur

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kenneth Smith" <ulfarnfinnson at yahoo.com>
To: "Barony of Northkeep Mailing List" <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Northkeep] VFW hall help

Well I have been given some good ideas and some they already do like the 
pancake breakfast. I think some of it comes down to marketing the place. I 
had breifly thought about the scouts doing something there and did not even 
think about homeschoolers. So we are getting some ideas that could be 
benifitial. Thanks for them. If you have more please feel free to come to 
their meeting or talk directly to my dad or myself at Tuesday practice. As 
always you can email as well. Thanks again.

Sir Ulf Arnfinnson CSS LXXIX

From: Chuck Kaun <jack_a_lope31 at hotmail.com>
To: northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Northkeep] VFW hall help

I do not believe that membership rates could be increased. The VFW is a 
national organization so is unable to raise its membership rates for a local 
group.

I think that the large open spaces and the kitchen may be the key. It would 
be some work but have they ever thought of pancake breakfasts, fish fries 
and other things like that? It is possible to make decent money just doing 
that 4 times a month. Pancakes are cheap to make and at $4-$5 a head, a 
stack and a cup o' joe will fill up most folks and have a very low overhead.

A fish fry is possible but probably not as often (depending upon how many 
fisherman there are and how good they are)

> On 1/18/12, Ld.blackmoon <ld.blackmoon at cox.net> wrote:
> > greetings
> >
> > how much money do they need to raise per year to stay open ?
> > have they looked at membership rate increases ? I know every nonprofit 
> > I'm
> > part of has had to raise membership rates including the sca.
> >
> > also , have they thought of changing their image ?( they are more than 
> > the
> > old people selling paper poppies on veterans day , but how many people 
> > know
> > that ? ) &
> > ( most of the new vets from overseas are much younger than their normal
> > membership base )
> > ( thanks to the government, there is no longer a shortage of veterans 
> > who
> > have served over seas during a time of war )
> > with all the new veterans who now qualify , by having served in war 
> > time, in
> > a different country, have they thought about recruiting new members from
> > that group ?
> > have they thought of perhaps doing a historical display , maybe once or
> > twice a year , with pic's and other memorabilia from their time in war 
> > zones
> > ? kind of an evolving time capsule of the people who lived through what
> > others only read about in the papers, or history books ? they could 
> > charge
> > admission, as well as run the snack bar for profit,advertise for free on 
> > the
> > internet, on the TV and radio " public announcements " same in the 
> > paper.
> > get the public involved, advertise to the history buffs, the war gamers,
> > even vets that served in the years of no f.w.
> > if they don't have enough active members to work the display / show/ 
> > what
> > ever , have they thought of offering free entry to the members of 
> > another
> > group that uses the building if they spend " x " amount of time working 
> > the
> > display / show ? or maybe discounted tickets for that groups other 
> > members
> > who aren't / cant work the display / show, but would like to see it ?
> > and do they have something like a " perpetual membership ?
> > if they don't they may wish to look into it, members pay like 15 years 
> > worth
> > of membership dues at one time, the person never has to pay dues again 
> > for
> > as long as he / she lives,the money goes into an interest bearing 
> > account
> > ( or investments depending on how they want to do it ) and the money 
> > from
> > all of these earns interest / value , from then on, the deposits can 
> > never
> > be withdrawn, only the interest / capital gains . so the group makes 
> > money
> > even after the person dies ( as long as the ones using the market don't
> > guess wrong and lose money )
> >
> > anyway , just a few questions and suggestions off the top of my head .
> >
> > Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
> > Arthur
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kenneth Smith" <ulfarnfinnson at yahoo.com>
> > To: "The Baronyof Northkeep" <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>;
> > <NorthkeepFighters at yahoogroups.com>; <Northern at lists.ansteorra.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:57 AM
> > Subject: [Northkeep] VFW hall help
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > They are in need of our help. It seems that they are in a low cash flow
> > situation and closing the hall is becoming a real but bad option for 
> > them.
> > They use to have Bingo bringing in some money to pay the bills but it is 
> > not
> > what it use to be and now they are having trouble with the operator of 
> > it.
> > They have probably enough money to keep the hall open for about 20 
> > months
> > and then they will have to shut it down completely. They did not come to 
> > me
> > about money and do not necessarily want donations from our members, 
> > although
> > they do take them. What they want is ideas. Their members are 
> > brainstorming
> > on ideas on how to make money for the hall. They have asked us since we 
> > use
> > the hall for our practice if our members might have any ideas. Besides 
> > the
> > obvious ones like holding shows or concerts there they would like 
> > others.
> > The other problem they have is execution of these endeavors. For they 
> > have
> > had shows in the past but have lost money on
> > them because of lack of expertise on these things and volunteers to help
> > with them. Hate to say this they are a dying breed. They have had a big 
> > drop
> > in membership over the years. So I am throwing this out there not just 
> > for
> > us but a whole group of veterans who need our help. If you have thoughts 
> > on
> > how to raise sustainable funds or the expertise to help with getting 
> > these
> > kinda things off the ground please let me know. Its not about us loosing 
> > a
> > site to practice at because we can go anywhere. Its about history of 
> > that
> > building. Its about giving back to those who have given so much for all 
> > of
> > us. They will be having a brainstorming meeting on Feb. 4 at the hall
> > starting at 10:00am and we have been invited. But you can always send 
> > your
> > thoughts and ideas to me to pass along as well. They know we have many
> > members that might have some great ideas and would like to tape into 
> > that
> > knowlege. Thanks for your time.
> > Sir Ulf Arnfinnson CSS LXXIX
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