TENT - [Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: al-jisr: Fw: Stand back - the wind's kicking up]]

Wed Dec 29 20:39:50 PST 1999

I am making a personal tent thet is a tudor tent going to be 36X14 in purple
and gold and will be purple  and gold striped roof and purple walls and gold
dags. with appliqued on roof and dags. The purple is a rich deep purple.
After we started it realized that it will look very calontrian and hope no
one thinks us to be the royalsd for calontri:). I loooooovvvvvveed tudors
and have always wanted one for my self. Very happy to be getting one.
Marguerite
P>S> I will be getting a new e-mail soon and will post it on the list.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tanya Guptill <tguptill at teleport.com>
To: *TENT--tentguild at Ansteorra.ORG <tentguild at Ansteorra.ORG>;
twobears at cts.com <twobears at cts.com>; al-jisr at al-mustarib.org
<al-jisr at al-mustarib.org>
Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 11:58 AM
Subject: TENT - [Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: al-jisr: Fw: Stand back - the wind's
kicking up]]

>Thought this might be of interest to the Guild:
>(I had to laugh at the comment--Tent Project 2000--I already have mine
going,
>too.  What sort of Tent Projects 2000 are the guild members working on?)
>
>> From: "Adam MacDonald" <twobears at cts.com>
>> To: "al~jisr" <al-jisr at al-mustarib.org>
>>  Greetings to the List!
>>
>> In answer to Wijdan regarding Bedu tents, I have prepared two (2) sets of
>>  answer.
>>
>> 1. Nifty tents, however, in order to 'work' they require **FAR** more
>> space
>>  than would be tolerated at an event like Pennsic (where space is at a
>>  premium).
>>
>>  That's the short, smart-ass answer.
>>
>>  Now before y'all go climbing my rack, let me explain.  First off, I'm a
>>  former architect in training, who has made a study of tensile
architecture
>>  (tents), believing that culture shapes housing and vice versa.
>>
>>  Tents are often more complex than they seem, regarding such things as
>>  building stresses, and circulation.  A mistake I often see being made in
>>  historical tentage is trying to improve upon thousands of years (in some
>> cases0 of in-the-field testing.
>>
>>  These tent are also often designed for a VERY SPECIFIC climate...Let's
>>  examine the black tent of the Bedu first.
>>
>>
>>  The black tents, named for their appearance, are constructed from long,
>>  narrow strips (about 48" wide) of dark goat's wool cloth.  This strip
are
>>  often pinned (!) together to form a large rectangle.  The interior is
>>  supported by a system of poles, with the center ridge held up by a pair
of
>>  crossed poles set into a carved wooden cross piece known as the shoe.
>> there
>>  are also smaller, single poles around the perimeter of the tent - these
>> tend
>> to be 3.5 to 4 foot tall.
>>
>>
>>  First off, the Bedu live in a very arid and windy enviroiment and the
tent
>> is designed for this..
>>
>>  Rain:
>>  Waterproofing is unnecessary in their case as rain is an infrequent
>>  occurance.  The small amount of precipitation the tents see is handled
by
>>  the fibers of the goatswool swelling and becoming somewhat less
permeable.
>>  A real rain means the family gets soaked (no biggie, the weather will
>> change
>>  back to normal soon...).
>>
>>  Wind:
>>  The way to keep what is essentially a very large sunshade from becoming
a
>>  kite, is to distribute the force of the as widely as possible.  In the
>> case
>>  of the black tent this is done with main ropes that vary from 50 to 100
>> feet
>>  long!  The extreme length of the ropes gives the necessary 'give' needed
>> to
>>  avoid becoming airborne.
>>
>>  Does this sound like Pennsic?  Doesn't even sound like Estrella!
>>
>> Shortening the ropes means weakening the overall weather-worthiness of
the
>>  structure drastically.  That coupled with this tent's inability to shed
>> rain
>>  make this, in my opinion, a somewhat poor choice for the Pennsic
>> enviroment
>>
>>  This doesn't mean I'm trying to discourage you (or anyone else) from
>>  building one - just that certain elements of design that ARE REQUIRED to
>>  make the tent viable are at odds with the very enviroment in which you
>> will
>> be using it.
>>
>> The black tent is a fabulous, lovely piece of portable architecture, in
>> fact
>> I'm planning on that being Tent Project 2000 (Tent Project 1999 is a set
>> of
>>  four -4- matching 16' gers for Estrellla, Oy!).  But, I also live in a
>>  coastal desert that has (relatively) small amounts of rainfall and
>> campsites
>>  where I can Use 30 to 40 foot lines (at least at our Potrero wars - late
>>  spring and late summer).
>>
>>  Suggested reading (should be required IMO)
>> The Architecture of the Nomads by Thorvald Faegre
>>  This is the Bible for anyone foolish enough (like me) to want to build
>> their
>>  own version of historical and/or ethnic tentage.  It has everything from
>> the
>>  Mongol ger to the Plains tepee, to Berber black tents (yummy!) to ?!.
It
>> is
>>  long out of print (but comes up on BestBookBuys quite often...)
>>
>>  Shelter Published by Shelter Publications in Bolinas CA
>>  A great picture book, large format.  Published in 1976 during the height
>> f
>> the "Woodbutchers'  homebuidling/homesteading era" this is also a must
>> have.
>>  These folks also have a WWW site (don't have the URL handy...)
>
><snip>
>
>>
>>
>>  Anyone who wants to talk tents, let me know...
>>
>> Sasha (who is thinking of changing his name to 'Khayyam')
>>
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