From thumpa at mindspring.com  Wed Jan  3 13:25:42 2001
From: thumpa at mindspring.com (Thumpa)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:25:42 -0500
Subject: PE - Does anyone sell a pavillion like Duke Cariadocs Conjecturally Period Pavilion?
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Does anyone sell a pavillion like Duke Cariadocs Conjecturally Period
Pavilion?

After haveing little success makeing a tent I have decided to buy one.  How
do you avoid buying a lemon?  Does anyone sell a pavillion like Duke
Cariadocs Conjecturally Period Pavilion?  Who would you all suggest buying
from?

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From mills_14008 at msn.com  Thu Jan  4 16:12:47 2001
From: mills_14008 at msn.com (Colleen Mills)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:12:47 -0600
Subject: PE - Does anyone sell a pavillion like Duke Cariadocs Conjectura
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We still have a 16 x 22 ft marquis for sale if you are interested.
E-mail direct  mills_14008 at msn.com




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From marguerite at ih2000.net  Fri Jan  5 08:26:23 2001
From: marguerite at ih2000.net (Marguerite)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:26:23 -0600
Subject: PE - Does anyone sell a pavillion like Duke Cariadocs Conjectura
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Colleen I have poeple ask if I have used ones from time to time. If I get some one asking for it I will help you Margeurite
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  From: Colleen Mills 
  To: periodencampments 
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  Subject: Re: PE - Does anyone sell a pavillion like Duke Cariadocs Conjectura


  We still have a 16 x 22 ft marquis for sale if you are interested.
  E-mail direct  mills_14008 at msn.com

   


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    do you avoid buying a lemon?  Does anyone sell a pavillion like Duke
    Cariadocs Conjecturally Period Pavilion?  Who would you all suggest buying
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From mills_14008 at msn.com  Fri Jan  5 13:58:09 2001
From: mills_14008 at msn.com (Colleen Mills)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 15:58:09 -0600
Subject: PE - Does anyone sell a pavillion like Duke Cariadocs Conjec
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Thank you very much- I can't afford the new one until we sell the monster. If can't find someone who needs it-guess won't be doing much campin this year.
Lady Clare




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From ddfr at best.com  Fri Jan  5 11:38:17 2001
From: ddfr at best.com (david friedman)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:38:17 -0800
Subject: PE - Does anyone sell a pavillion like Duke Cariadocs
 Conjecturally Period Pavilion?
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At 4:25 PM -0500 1/3/01, Thumpa wrote:
>Does anyone sell a pavillion like Duke Cariadocs Conjecturally Period
>Pavilion?
>
>After haveing little success makeing a tent I have decided to buy one.  How
>do you avoid buying a lemon?  Does anyone sell a pavillion like Duke
>Cariadocs Conjecturally Period Pavilion?  Who would you all suggest buying
>from?


I'm not sure which of mine you are thinking of. If it is the single 
centerpole pavilion in editions of the Miscellany prior to the 
current edition, I would advise against it, since I think I now have 
a better design--one that I owe to Daffyd (David Kuijit). You can see 
it in the current edition of the Miscellany, which is on my web page 
in pdf format (an older edition is webbed by someone else with my 
permission in HTML). If it is the Geteld--the 9th century pup 
tent--in the Miscellany, you might rethink making it, since it's easy.

Of the two designs in the current Miscellany, the Geteld is easier to 
make, but less space efficient. Both are easy to put up--less than 
half an hour by myself. I don't know of anyone selling either, I'm 
afraid.

David/Cariadoc
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From svenskildbiter at angelfire.com  Sun Jan  7 15:25:04 2001
From: svenskildbiter at angelfire.com (Stephen Wyley)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 09:25:04 +1000
Subject: PE - Search Engine on Tents of History Site
Message-ID: <JDCIDHHPBDCKJAAA@angelfire.com>

Hi All,

I now have a working search engine on my Tents of History site.

This should make access even easier. Let me know how you go with it.

http://www.svenskildbiter.homepage.com/Tents/intro.html

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Fortifications (Dictionary of Military Architecture, etc).
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Archery, Arms, Armour, Chests, Tents, Trebuchets,
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From svenskildbiter at angelfire.com  Tue Jan  9 16:34:28 2001
From: svenskildbiter at angelfire.com (Stephen Wyley)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:34:28 +1000
Subject: PE - Fwd: RE: Medieval Pavilions/Tents
Message-ID: <PLOADNLKECDEKAAA@angelfire.com>

Hi All,

Below is a recommended supplier of period tents in Australia.

---
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Sven
(Stephen Francis Wyley)
Fortifications (Dictionary of Military Architecture, etc).
http://www.angelfire.com/wy/svenskildbiter/index.html
Archery, Arms, Armour, Chests, Tents, Trebuchets,
Vikings, Woodwork.
http://www.geocities.com/svenskildbiter/index.html
Arrow Fletching, Turbow Longbows & Yoretymes Emporium of History
http://svenskildbiter.webjump.com/index2.html



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DATE: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:03:49
From: Jeremy Draper <jeremyd at mildura.vic.gov.au>
To: "'living-history at gospel.iinet.net.au'"<living-history at gospel.iinet.net.au>

Valerie,

Chris Dickins
Patch's Canvas Manufacturing Pty Ltd
115 Hattam Street
Golden Square
Bendigo, Vic  3555
(03) 5442-3211 ph
(03) 5441-6357  fax
patchs at patchscanvas.com

When I ordered my Geteld, I gave Chris the design and he then told me all
the problems and we went over canvas
types/strengths/costs/availability/colour etc. and came up with a final
product. If you gave him a picture of what you want and the approx
dimensions (12ft diameter + an approx wall  and centre pole height), he
would be able to work it all out.

My tent was done with door ties etc to look authentic, and those sort of
things are no problem. Because of the size of my tent, he has sewn belt
strap re-enforcing into some areas (though you can't see unless you look
closely) to reduce the potential for the canvas to tearat these joins. The
only part of my tent that is not authentic an is obvious (apart from modern
canvas and machine stiching) is the peg loops, originally we were going to
us canvas loops, but due to the size a weight of the tent, we would have had
to have one every 50cm or so, so we used belt strapping and D-rings (I
wanted the tent to last for a long time, there should be no problem now even
in a severe storm). 

The largest determining factor in the cost of the tent is going to be the
weight of canvas you want to use.

Speak to Chris and see what you think, but I would also speak to Angela (who
I agree has made some great tents). The other option is to get out the
Yellow pages and start ringing tent makes/Canvas manufacturers one by one,
thats how I got onto Chris (he was the 14th place I had contacted).

I hope thats helpful

All the best

Jeremy Draper



> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Couch, Valerie [SMTP:vcouch at colonial.com.au]
> Sent:	Tuesday, 9 January 2001 14:33
> To:	'living-history at gospel.iinet.net.au'
> Subject:	RE: Medieval Pavilions/Tents
> 
> Hi Jeremy, 
> Yes I would like his contact details, ta.  If I asked him to make a basic
> 12ft diameter round pavilion, he'd know what to make? Or would I need to
> supply a pattern? If I need to give him instructions, does anyone know
> where
> to get them from? (I just can't get my head around all those calculations!
> Maths was never my forte...)
> Thanks everyone for their help!
> 
> Regards,
> Valerie Couch
>  <<...OLE_Obj...>> 
> Reporting & Asset Coordinator
> OPERATIONS CONTROL GROUP
> Phone: 	 (02) 9798 1721
> Fax:	 (02) 9798 1560
> *:	vcouch at colonial.com.au <mailto:vcouch at colonial.com.au> 
> 
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From:	Jeremy Draper [SMTP:jeremyd at mildura.vic.gov.au]
> 	Sent:	Tuesday, 9 January 2001 14:20
> 	To:	'living-history at gospel.iinet.net.au'
> 	Subject:	RE: Medieval Pavilions/Tents
> 
> 	I got my tent made by a Company in Bendigo (Vic) called Patchs
> Canvas
> 	Manufacturing. Chris, the owner, quite likes doing custom jobs, so
> he does
> 	good work. He will make it to any specification you've got.
> 
> 	If you want his details, let me know.
> 
> 	Jeremy Draper
> 
> 	> -----Original Message-----
> 	> From:	Couch, Valerie [SMTP:vcouch at colonial.com.au]
> 	> Sent:	Tuesday, 9 January 2001 13:15
> 	> To:	living-history at gospel.iinet.net.au; 'Living History'
> 	> Subject:	Medieval Pavilions/Tents
> 	> 
> 	> Hi All, 
> 	> Does anyone know of anybody who makes and sells Medieval style
> pavilions
> 	> in
> 	> Australia?
> 	> Many Thanks, Valerie.
> 	> Regards,
> 	> Valerie Couch
> 	>  <<...OLE_Obj...>> 
> 	> Reporting & Asset Coordinator
> 	> OPERATIONS CONTROL GROUP
> 	> Phone: 	 (02) 9798 1721
> 	> Fax:	 (02) 9798 1560
> 	> *:	vcouch at colonial.com.au <mailto:vcouch at colonial.com.au> 
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From svenskildbiter at angelfire.com  Tue Jan  9 16:36:48 2001
From: svenskildbiter at angelfire.com (Stephen Wyley)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:36:48 +1000
Subject: PE - Fwd: RE: Medieval Pavilions/Tents
Message-ID: <KOBOEOCFFEDEKAAA@angelfire.com>

Hi All,

Here is another one.

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Fortifications (Dictionary of Military Architecture, etc).
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DATE: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:18:09
From: "Lewis Scheuch-Evans" <lse95th at hotmail.com>
To: living-history at gospel.iinet.net.au

Hi All

For "period" tents, I heartily reccommend
Bob Ellis
Bojo Products
PO Box 112
AVENEL VIC 3664
0412 368034
0357 962753

Lewis





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From barclayp at eucom.mil  Thu Jan 18 02:26:44 2001
From: barclayp at eucom.mil (Barclay, Peter C. MAJ)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:26:44 +0100
Subject: PE - FW: Canvas Pricing (Sunforger and regular)
Message-ID: <35A1AF2B5A35514ABA4ABD685EBF58662A409C@UNT18.eucom.mil>

Greetings all from Master Terafan,

	In preparation for the spring/summer pavilion season, I called Itex
in Colorado as one source of supply for canvas. They provided me with the
following information.  

	The sales rep said that they ship FOB via UPS out of Butler, GA and
it is about $25 to VA and $40 or so to CA.  

	He also said they often have remnant rolls at 25-30% off.  Call and
check.    

AN IMPORTANT NOTE:  Prices go up on 1 February 00.  

respectfully, 
                     Terafan

Master Rhys Terafan Greydragon           barclayp at eucom.mil
Seneschal, brewer, and probably other things I can't remember...

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Shaver [mailto:BShaver at banwear.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 6:23 PM
To: 'barclayp at eucom.mil'
Subject: Canvas Pricing

Hi, Peter:
Thanks for your inquiry. I've listed below prices for the various styles we
discussed, that are applicable for tent manufacture.

SUNFORGER MARINE BOATSHRUNK  (non-fire retardant)
100% Cotton Army Duck
WIDTH	            WEIGHT      COLOR	      COUNT	     PLY    PRICE
35/36"            10.10 oz.   Colorless   54X42	     2X2   $2.39
56/57"            10.10 oz.   Colorless   54X42	     2X2   $3.60
Bale sizes approximately 350 yards. Add $0.10 per yard for 100 yard rolls.

SUNFORGER MARINE BOATSHRUNK - Fire Retardant TO CPAI-84
100% Cotton Army Duck
WIDTH	      WEIGHT      COLOR       COUNT     PLY     PRICE
35/36"      10.10 oz.   Colorless   54X42	    2X2     $3.24
56/57"      10.10 oz.   Colorless   54X42	    2X2     $4.90
Bale sizes approximately 350 yards. Add $0.10 per yard for 100 yard rolls.

NUMBER 12 Canvas (11.45 oz.), 100% Cotton Duck, Natural
  Available in the following widths:

 36"=$1.71      48"=$2.16   
 60"=$3.09      72"=$3.54   
 84"=$4.50      96"=$7.85
120"=$9.20     144"=$13.65
Put up on approximately 100 yard rolls.

Seconds, colors and off goods available for the above styles. Call
1-800-525-7058 ext. 203 for current inventory.
Thanks for your interest!
Bob Shaver

PS Prices go up February, 2001
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From ddfr at best.com  Thu Jan 18 15:11:38 2001
From: ddfr at best.com (david friedman)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:11:38 -0800
Subject: PE - FW: Canvas Pricing (Sunforger and regular)
In-Reply-To: <35A1AF2B5A35514ABA4ABD685EBF58662A409C@UNT18.eucom.mil>
References: <35A1AF2B5A35514ABA4ABD685EBF58662A409C@UNT18.eucom.mil>
Message-ID: <p04330101b68d26c2352f@[205.149.171.135]>

I've done business with Itex and like them. They have high quality 
tent canvas (sunforger with all the usual treatments) at a very 
reasonable price. And they are friendly and helpful people.

I suspect the remnants you are referring to are partial rolls of that 
canvas. They also have "remnants" at much more than 30% off--prices 
like a dollar to two dollars a yard for serious canvas.
The remnant prices are for the whole piece, which is likely to be at 
least fifty yards and may be in the hundreds. They are colored. Itex 
generally can't tell you in much detail what treatments (mildew 
resistance, fire resistance, etc.) a remnant roll has had, although 
the person you talk to may be able to give an informed guess. And 
they will send you a sample. They will also send you a list of 
remnants, but it may or may not correspond to what they currently 
have in stock, since it doesn't seem to be revised very often, so you 
may do better by just talking to the person at the other end of the 
phone about what you need and having him see what they have.

The walls of our big tent were made from part of one roll of the low 
cost remnants (black) and our children's tent was expanded with part 
of another (blue). We still have lots of the latter if anyone local 
wants to buy some of it from us.

At 11:26 AM +0100 1/18/01, Barclay, Peter C. MAJ wrote:
>Greetings all from Master Terafan,
>
>	In preparation for the spring/summer pavilion season, I called Itex
>in Colorado as one source of supply for canvas. They provided me with the
>following information. 
>
>	The sales rep said that they ship FOB via UPS out of Butler, GA and
>it is about $25 to VA and $40 or so to CA. 
>
>	He also said they often have remnant rolls at 25-30% off.  Call and
>check.   
>
>AN IMPORTANT NOTE:  Prices go up on 1 February 00. 
>
>respectfully,
>                      Terafan
>
>Master Rhys Terafan Greydragon           barclayp at eucom.mil
>Seneschal, brewer, and probably other things I can't remember...
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Shaver [mailto:BShaver at banwear.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 6:23 PM
>To: 'barclayp at eucom.mil'
>Subject: Canvas Pricing
>
>Hi, Peter:
>Thanks for your inquiry. I've listed below prices for the various styles we
>discussed, that are applicable for tent manufacture.
>
>SUNFORGER MARINE BOATSHRUNK  (non-fire retardant)
>100% Cotton Army Duck
>WIDTH	            WEIGHT      COLOR	      COUNT	     PLY    PRICE
>35/36"            10.10 oz.   Colorless   54X42	     2X2   $2.39
>56/57"            10.10 oz.   Colorless   54X42	     2X2   $3.60
>Bale sizes approximately 350 yards. Add $0.10 per yard for 100 yard rolls.
>
>SUNFORGER MARINE BOATSHRUNK - Fire Retardant TO CPAI-84
>100% Cotton Army Duck
>WIDTH	      WEIGHT      COLOR       COUNT     PLY     PRICE
>35/36"      10.10 oz.   Colorless   54X42	    2X2     $3.24
>56/57"      10.10 oz.   Colorless   54X42	    2X2     $4.90
>Bale sizes approximately 350 yards. Add $0.10 per yard for 100 yard rolls.
>
>NUMBER 12 Canvas (11.45 oz.), 100% Cotton Duck, Natural
>   Available in the following widths:
>
>  36"=$1.71      48"=$2.16  
>  60"=$3.09      72"=$3.54  
>  84"=$4.50      96"=$7.85
>120"=$9.20     144"=$13.65
>Put up on approximately 100 yard rolls.
>
>Seconds, colors and off goods available for the above styles. Call
>1-800-525-7058 ext. 203 for current inventory.
>Thanks for your interest!
>Bob Shaver
>
>PS Prices go up February, 2001
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From marguerite at ih2000.net  Thu Jan 18 09:29:48 2001
From: marguerite at ih2000.net (Marguerite)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:29:48 -0600
Subject: [Periodencampments] Chair designs
Message-ID: <000c01c08174$443223e0$a185ffcc@necromasta>

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Is there a place for chair designs on line.
We are wanting to make the fold up chairs that has the has the s curve on the wood.
Would like about four of them made. I have a lot of people coming to my tents to hang out and it would look so much nicer to have a large amount of chairs to have for them to sit in then the coleman chairs.
Spinning Winds Pavilions and Tents, LLC
Cherie L. Nolan; AKA, Lady Marguerite des Fleur
222 N. Main
Lumberton, Tx. 77657
office-409-751-0015
cell-409-673-8456
home 409-899-1488
Fax 409-751-0019
www.spinningwinds.com
Coastal Regional Chirurgeon
Kingdom Deputy Seneschal at large- Membership Drive
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