RF - Fw: [SCA-Siege] Ban,Ban,Ban...

Cobalt60@lcc cobalt60 at lcc.net
Fri Nov 10 09:45:50 PST 2000


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From: dsmith2484 at aol.com <dsmith2484 at aol.com>
To: SCA-Siege at egroups.com <SCA-Siege at egroups.com>
Date: Thursday, 09 November, 2000 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [SCA-Siege] Ban,Ban,Ban...


>In a message dated 11/2/00 12:20:51 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
>cnogy at dicksonstreet.com writes:
>
>> So an engine that fails the appearance test, and an engine that fails the
>>  functionality test, should not be allowed (safe or not).  You have to
draw
>> the
>>  line somewhere - and there is nowhere on the other side of a bungeelista
to
>>  draw the line. (I am hard pressed to think of any device that can have
any
>> kind
>>  of a significant footprint and a mechanical release that would be
simpler
>> than
>>  a bungeelista and still throw any kind of ammo.  And after asking that
very
>>  question on the net a few months ago, nobody else could supply an answer
>>  either.).
>
>A couple of quick questions on the above comment.
>How does this apply to cannon.  Of course we cannot use the tradtional
method
>of gunpowder as a source of energy, so several people are using springs or
>bungee cords to supply the energy.  You want to be careful on any proposed
>rule change to make sure you don't accidently ban cannon along with
>bungliesta.
>
>Also (and I don't believe this has been made clear yet) Are you attempting
to
>curtail the use of siege engines that
>fail both the appearance test and the functionality test, or just engines
>that fail one or the other.
>
>Let us take for example King's Bain, Lord Quinn's award winning onager. It
is
>powered by 2 garage door springs.  Definately not period.  However he has
the
>hidden to that you must turn the engine on it's side to see them.  This
>engine
>passes the appearance test, but fails the "functionality test".  Mind you,
>I'm assuimg here that what you mean by functionalyt test is what type of
>power source it uses.
>
>For a second example, say somone constructs a ballista with a metal prod
>similar to Lady Morgan's ballista.  The difference is this prod is
>constructed of a type of steel that does not bend.  Instead the power is
>supplied by bungee cords in the place of the string.  Would this engine be
>curtailed also?
>
>Well, I think we've wondered off into the gray area far enough for the
moment.
>
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