[Ravensfort] Overdue response...only 2 more after this...

AMH/DBLJ orthart at earthlink.net
Mon Aug 13 00:10:56 PDT 2001


Saint David and Chrystal,

After getting some what of a straight answer from kief in his last attack I find
there is little point in trying to deal with a mind of such twisted honor.  Your
help will not be needed.

In service to the Barony,
Marius



AMH/DBLJ wrote:

> Saint David,
>
> I got your message much earlier tonight and I will honor your request as I
> respect your wishes as my Baron.  I will not post again to kief until after you
> have stepped down.  Perhaps you and Chrystal could help with some sort of line
> of communication for us as I can't seem to get straight answers to simple
> questions.  I hate to put you in this position but, hey, you volunteered for
> your jobs.  I am really, really, really ready to move on to other more
> important things.  Please help.
>
> Pax,
> Marius
>
> Kief av Kiersted wrote:
>
> > Greetings to all good and true Raven's Forters...and Doug LeJeune.
> >
> > (This is the long overdue response to Mr. LeJeune's letter of 28 JUL 2001. I
> > had refrained from posting this repy at the request of the Baron and
> > Baronness of Raven's Fort to "keep the peace". Since the "peace" has been
> > broken once more I will now answer Mr. LeJeune's *public* accusations and
> > charges against me. This missive was originally composed and sent privately
> > about two weeks ago.)
> >
> > Mr. LeJeune did compose and post the following diatribe:
> >
> > ***********************
> >     From: AMH/DBLJ <orthart at earthlink.net>
> > Reply-To: orthart at earthlink.net
> > To: charlotte epps <lizardkeep at hotmail.com>
> > CC: sirkief at hotmail.com, env_drh at shsu.edu, chrystal_dragon at hotmail.com,
> >    "Electric Raven's Land" <Ravensfort at ansteorra.org>, niklas at wt.net
> > Subject: Re: We were requested to forward this
> > Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 21:53:15 -0500
> >
> > This evening I read the first part (far enough to confirm rumors ) of an
> > email from
> > Kief that was forwarded to me.
> > **************************
> >
> > Typical, Mr. Lejeune is ignoring the whole of a thing to focus *only* on a
> > small portion to "make his case"...and a twisted case it is. Please read on.
> >
> > **************************
> >     It stated that I had fallen out of his grace and
> > that I have lost my site privileges and must return my key.  Childish, but
> > not a
> > surprise.
> > **************************
> >
> > Indeed...I think not. Nowhere did I state that you had fallen "out of (my)
> > grace". I stated, "However, *if* you are serious about taking  an "extended
> > vacation" from "Raven's Fort activities" you no longer have need of a key to
> > access the site." The only reason that you ever had a key to access the site
> > was because you were one of the few that did enough work at the site to
> > warrant your keeping one. My reply was aimed at confirming your stated goal
> > of non-participation. Since you have not in any way, shape, or form, denied
> > your future non-participation in "Raven's Fort activities", your priviledge
> > of keeping a key to the private property of the Dorrell and Rohe families
> > has ended.
> >
> > You *must* return the key.
> >
> > **************************
> >     Through the years I was told over and over again by Kief that as long as
> > I keep
> > working and improving the site that he had no problem with me coming out
> > when ever
> > I could.
> > **************************
> >
> > That is absolutely correct. You did wonderous things during those years.
> > Now, however, you have stated and *not* retracted your desire to end all
> > participation in "Raven's Fort activities". Therefore, you are no longer
> > "working and improving the site". Therefore, you no longer have access.
> >
> > You *must* return the key.
> >
> > **************************
> >     At the spring event I was complimented by several individuals that the
> > Rose Garden and Tavern had never looked better.  They were right.  I am
> > proud to
> > say that I had spent a great deal of time, money and effort on the site.  No
> > one
> > can deny that.
> > **************************
> >
> > I would not even try and deny that the site looked great at the spring
> > event. That was due to the efforts of *all* those folks that worked on the
> > site...*not* just you. The Rose Garden and the Tavern looked fabulous, you
> > did yeoman service on the event preparation. You were commended and thanked
> > for you efforts.
> >
> > ***************************
> >     Regardless of how hard I have worked, now that Kief is upset with me I
> > am
> > restricted from the site.
> > **************************
> >
> > In practically every letter I have stated that Mr. LeJeune has *always* been
> > a hard and diligent worker. You cannot deny that fact. The reason that I am
> > "upset" with you is because of your hateful and false attacks on myself and
> > my family.
> >
> > The reason that you are not allowed to have *special* access to the site is
> > because of your desire to take an "extended vacation" from "Raven's Fort
> > activities". You, because of your *own* words, no longer fit the criteria
> > for having unlimited access to the site. You *are not* restricted from the
> > site. Mr. LeJeune, you now must access the site like everyone else that
> > isn't doing steady improvement there. You may access the site on *official*
> > workdays and weekends, at *official* events and functions, or as an invited
> > guest at any special gatherings the Barony have there. You no long have free
> > rein as come and go as you please on the private property of the Dorrell and
> > Rohe families.
> >
> > *************************
> >     He is abusing his position as land agent to extract a
> > personal revenge.  This is the exact type of dishonorable actions that I
> > have been
> > talking about in my recent emails.
> > **************************
> >
> > Mr. LeJeune, if I want to extract "personal revenge" I will extract it in
> > *my* own way, not through your "*alleged* abuse" of my position as land
> > agent.
> >
> > My actions are far from being dishonorable. In fact they are certainly
> > honorable. *You* did break the trust here. *You* did, by your own words,
> > remove yourself from the class of "working members" of the Barony. I am
> > holding you accountable to your promises of long ago and know with absolute
> > certainty that I am taking the correct actions. What you seem to have
> > forgotten, Mr. LeJeune, is that I am also in verbal contract, a gentleman's
> > handshake agreement, with the land owners, those now deceased and those
> > still living. I am looking out for *their* interests as well as those of the
> > Barony. I state for the record that I have, am, and will require anyone that
> > holds a key to the Stones site (save David Hoffpauir) to return it given
> > just cause. The reason that David Hoffpauir is exempted is because he
> > received one of the original keys to the Dorrell properties *before* he was
> > part of the SCA.
> >
> > ***************************
> >     If Kief persist on this self serving course of action I will have no
> > choice but to
> > officially request for the second time during the rein of Saint David and
> > Chrystal
> > that a new land agent be appointed to represent the SCA.
> > ***************************
> >
> > You may *officially request* all that you wish.
> >
> > I will give everyone a bit of history here. I was never "appointed". The
> > only reason that I am land agent is because the owners entrusted me with the
> > upkeep of their property because I am their *neighbor*. Mr. Dorrell and Mr.
> > Rohe have a gentleman's handshake agreement with the SCA through my good
> > offices and name. They know and trust me to maintain and improve their
> > property during the SCA's use of the property. I also work on their property
> > during other times outside the SCA's use. Mr. LeJeune does not seem to grasp
> > this simple set of facts. The reason that we are allowed to use these good
> > folk's property and equipment is because I initiated the process and have
> > maintained their trust for around 16 years. I cannot be "removed" nor anyone
> > else "appointed".
> >
> > **************************
> >     One that will hopefully
> > be above lies, tantrums, bullying and extortion.  Saint David knows the land
> > owners
> > well and would be an excellent choice.
> > **************************
> >
> > You have once more charged me with lying, "bullying" (read assault),
> > *extortion*, and "tantrums" (read losing my temper). I say to you now that
> > if you cannot prove all of these charges you are in serious danger of being
> > taken to a court of law for slander and libel. I feel that you dare not
> > expose your own private activities to the light of day and demand of you an
> > immediate stop to the defamation of my character.
> >
> > **************************
> >     Have a nice day,
> > Marius
> > **************************
> >
> > Most sincerely,
> >
> > Wæs ?u Hæl in Tro? and Fri?...!
> > Kief av Kiersted -- Lee Cockerham
> > "Better the Hammer than the nail..."
> >
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