[Ravensfort] curious

Sun Jul 22 07:28:51 PDT 2001

You might have to cut mine out too.  I agree with him.

Pax,
Marius

"David R. Hoffpauir" wrote:

> Welp Ragan, guess what?  Yer raggin on my Queen, questioning the authority of my
> Crown, and once again disrupting the relative peace in lands over which I have
> authority within the Society for Creative Anachronism. Since I can't have you
> executed and the dungeon is being converted to a nursery for the overflow of cry
> babies we've got, we'll just pretend I had your tongue cut out......  From this
> point forward, your posts will be monitored.  If I think they are inappropriate,
> they don't go on the list.  Kinda sucks, don't it.
>
> Oh, and keep in mind, complete honesty, without compassion, is brutality.
>
> DsD
>
> Bronte wrote:
>
> > > Heilsa all good and true folks in this Barony of Raven's Fort
> > >
> > > What follows are the words of the Ansteorran Crown:
> > >
> >
> > to you though,        not to US.     and it comes from YOU not from the baron
> > and baroness?
> > or the senischal?
> > hmmmm.....?       again it smacks of conspiracy to the upset eye.
> >
> > >
> > > >From: "Jeremy & Trish Kvamme" <duncanandlarissa at hotmail.com>
> > > >To: sirkief at hotmail.com
> > > >CC: seneschal at ansteorra.org
> > > >Subject: Words from the Crown
> > > >Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 15:38:31 -0000
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >First and foremost, His Majesty and I are appalled at the behavior of some
> > > >of the individuals in the Barony of Ravensfort.
> > > >
> >
> > and would I be one of those.
> >
> > >
> > > >I will state to you here in this forum and face to face that if necessary,
> > > >We will take whatever steps We deem necessary to protect Ravensfort from
> > > >further harassment.
> > > >
> >
> > and just what does this threat intail?
> > banishment or what?
> >
> > a bit high handed here ain't we ?
> > oooo all royal doom and gloom.
> > i hear jackboots in this threat.
> >
> > >
> > > >In a meeting with the candidates and Their Excellencies prior to our
> > > >announcement, and in the presence of the Regional Seneschal, all candidates
> > > >were praised for what we saw as strengths in each set, and asked to make a
> > > >promise to each other that they would support the couple selected, and show
> > > >unity and a unified front to the Barony.
> > > >
> > > >They were all asked as well to come forward when the candidate was
> > > >announced as a public show of this unity to the assembled Kingdom, and from
> > > >where I was sitting, it appeared they all did so.
> > > >
> > > >It is Our considered opinion that any members of the candidacy who have
> > > >failed to support those selected and caused discord amongst the populace
> > > >have proven they were unworthy of consideration, and have stained their
> > > >honor.
> > > >
> >
> > oh so if we don't agree with the crown we have stained our honor?
> > FREE WILL IS DISHONORABLE?
> >
> > >
> > > >The responsibility of each candidate, the Baron and Baroness, and the Crown
> > > >is to make sure Ravensfort continues, grows, and excels with each passing
> > > >year, not decays into personal attacks against each other and the Crown.
> > > >
> >
> > but that what the CROWN APPOINTED BRASS have allowed the barony to become.
> > where lies the fault with the leader or the led.
> >
> > >
> > > >The Crown of Ansteorra will consider no petitions, letter writing
> > > >campaigns, or petty hateful emails directed at those chosen as their Landed
> > > >Representatives.
> > > >
> >
> > ah so the crown will not consider whether the where right or not.
> > "you got what we gave you, now like it."    that's how this reads to me.
> > i object strongly to the "will consider no petitions"
> > so no matter how many of the populace say "no we don't want this" after all.?
> > so this supports my feeling of being snubbed and seems to snubb it's royal nose
> > at our feelings or opinions.
> >
> > >
> > > >This is a sampling of the questions asked by His Majesty and I during the
> > > >interviews.
> > > >
> > > >1.  Are you aware of the financial and emotional strains of serving as
> > > >Landed B&B's?  We at this time disclosed that as of the polling, Duncan and
> > > >I had spent near $8,000.00 in the past 4 months, and although this would be
> > > >significantly more than they should expect, it was a point that needed to
> > > >be made.
> > > >
> > > >2.  Each couple was asked who their second choice would be should they not
> > > >be selected.
> > > >
> > > >3.  Each couple was asked to discuss what fealty to the Crown meant to
> > > >them.
> > > >
> > > >4.  Each couple was asked how they would handle a dispute or disagreement
> > > >with the Crown.
> > > >
> > > >5.  Each couple was warned about what the stress of this can do to their
> > > >existing relationship.
> > > >
> > > >6.  Each couple was asked how they would handle a dispute between their
> > > >people and the will of the Crown.
> > > >
> > > >In addition to this, they were all asked questions of a more personal
> > > >nature, which did include do you have a working phone, personal
> > > >transportation and income sufficient to support the office.
> > > >
> > > >I am proud of those of the candidates and populace who have NOT bought in
> > > >to this petulant and petty behavior, and I will reflect this in my
> > > >summation of this situation to future Crowns, most especially when the time
> > > >comes that Nykolas and Kezia wish to retire.
> > > >
> > > >I will state publicly here that as of my writing neither Ourselves nor
> > > >Mistress Clarissa have received any calls, emails or questions from anyone
> > > >in Ravensfort regarding Our decision.
> > > >
> >
> > maybe no one wished to be banished or called dishonorable.
> >
> > >
> > > >I consider ugly and inflammatory emails not only childish but cowardice.
> >
> > and so now she's going to go calling people cowards...
> > UH LADY THAT'S UGLY AND INFLAMITORY........
> > best rethink that one and repost.*smile*
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >The decision was made by taking into consideration all of the attributes of
> > > >each candidate, as well as the polling of the populace.
> > > >
> > > >The populace spoke to us  with much support for Nykolas and Kezia,
> >
> > did it now.......          see most EVERYONE i spoke to before the poll where
> > all in agreement on two things
> > ONE. i need to quit losing my temper and letting my mouth overload my ass.
> > TWO. they didn't support paul as baron. EVERYONE i said.
> > and that's why their's a lotta bitchin going on now about not likeing the way it
> > went.
> > it was like the "crown" picked the one LEAST popular on purpose.
> > to"show us" seems to be the phrase used most.
> >
> > > we love
> > > >the Barony of Ravensfort and wish to see it continue and grow ever
> > > >stronger.
> > > >
> > > >It is Our expectation to make their investiture a day of celebration and
> > > >wonder for all of Ansteorra.  We know that Ravensfort will shine and be the
> > > >place that so many call home and keep close to their heart.  For those who
> > > >love the Barony will help it continue to grow, not tear it apart.
> > > >
> >
> > well their is love of the barony       and love of the dream
> >
> > >
> > > >We thank all of you for your support and love of your Barony, and we grieve
> > > >with you at the failure of a few to keep their words to Us, and to
> > > >Ravensfort.
> > > >
> > > >Larissa, Regina
> > > >
> >
> > some see what they are doing as love of their barony.
> > and wanting what THEY see as best for it.
> >
> > well let's see if the conspiracy stuff is true
> > if their's jackboots in Ansteorra i'll prolly get banished.
> >
> > or harrassed.          *smile*
> > Ragan
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
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