[Ravensfort] Candidate Discussion

[AMH/DBLJ]

Dear Monkey King,

You are not taking your meds any more are you ??

I don't know where you pulled the topic from but as far as the Guild goes you
should start your own game and call it anything you like.  (You might want to
talk to Mouse Navarre)  No one is stopping anyone from doing anything they
like.  If you want to do a Black White and Sort of Gray like event knock
yourself out.  More power to you.  Imitation is the highest form of flattery.

Pax,
Marius

KING Of The Firemonkeys wrote:

> >Maybe we're going at this the wrong way. Before we haggle on who the
> >candidates are, why don't we figure out what we EACH personally want in a
> >B&B?
> ah but that would set me up to seem i was saying that the candidates that i
> don't support DON'T have those qualities... and i don't want to say that,
> but it could REALLY benifit the barony to use this time and situation to
> VOICE our thoughts on these subjects to get them in the open to see if the
> way we feel is convergent with the reality.
> mebbe the things i feel are untrue, mebbe the feelings of others need
> voicing too!       in psycology it's called catharsis(ok i'm not practicing
> here but you DO learn SOMETHING in four years)there's a cleansing effect to
> it.     lets let some steam out of the pressure cooker eh?
>
> Things like . . .
> >
> >What's the most important quality that you want to see in a B&B?
> #1.?
> a personal focus on THE BARONY rather than to be a "kings man." as marius
> put it. i don't freaking WANT a KINGS man on my big chair
> i want him to be MY Baron First, and Kings man second. this may seem off
> base but that's what i always felt with Kief! i felt he cared about US
> first. and i ain't felt that in a while.
>
> >What issues are most important to you? And how would you like a B&B to deal
> >with those issues?
>
> that IS the most important issue in my mind, as well as there needs to be
> more focus on the other NON heavey fighter aspects of the SCA
> I'm SICK TO DEATH of stick jocks who think"if your not one of US you a
> cowardly sh** or something. i've been critisised hugely for my intent to
> make my armour and take up heavy fighting with the express purpose of
> beating the SH** out of some of the heavy comunity in the barony
> and SCA because they talk noise and won't step up on a street corner.
> *and Joy dosen't want me to go to jail for assalt and battery*
> but i'd like to see this ARTSAN of the SEASON? sorry but i feel it's a lame
> duck thing beefed up     why is there such a focus on fighters?
> the ravens talon is NOT the same as artisan of the fort. why not just make
> it the yearly defender prize title for artisans.    but NOOOOO
> chrystal (I FEEL) broke her word to the barony when she pledged to me that
> the barony was working on an award of merit for arts and sciences
> that would be equal too the talon and the ravens heart! IT IS NOT!
> IT'S EQUAL TO THE FRIGGIN RAVENSKALD AND THE DEFENDER OF THE FORT!~
> and so i feel that the pledge has NOT been fullfilled. and the arts and
> sciences are still waiting for recognition.... the feather idea
> WAS originaly an idea FOR arts and sciences.   and WAS STOLEN FOR THE
> SERVICE MUKITIES so the RAVENSHEARTS could all go, here this was a good job
> so and so. well we didn't NEED ANOTHER SERVICE AWARD TO MAKE THE
> RAVENSHEARTS SEEM GENEROUS! now DID WE!?!?
> well i think i'll leave off there ......except to say what we NEED around
> here IS SOME FRIGGIN EQUALITY in RESPECT given to the differant TYPES of
> activity in the SCA. heavy fighters who think they're better than light
> fighters because they have heavier armour would be up a S*** creek with out
> a paddle if those rapiers had a POINT to thrust through those GAPS in that
> armour. and it would be easier to do because of less encumbering weight! and
> why the artisans even try is beyond me some times.    "hey you who i treat
> as beneath me because your not a swaggering brute in all this manly HOTASS
> armour showing your ASS to everyone at the campfire because you can't
> protect your flanks and want to show the bruise to prove it! i WANT YOU TO
> use your SKILLS to produce some ABSOLUTLY AWESOME artifacts at cost of time
> and money and then i expect you to DONATE IT as a PRIZE for someone else
> like ME! oh and i'm barely going to show it except at NIGHT in the freakin
> DARK at court where we'll give it away and MAYBE remember to say YOUR NAME
> if anyone knows who YOU ARE so maybe someone will figure out SOMEDAY that
> YOU are a person of EXCEPTIONAL talent!
> (oh did i forget that this emaginary person was talking to a specific real
> PERSON: RACHEL! i've been watching that young lady become a badass artisan
> and getting dissed all over the place. so she's a little annoying at times I
> HAD HER IN MY ABNORMAL PSYCH CLASS and she made me want to scream at times
> (and laugh at others) but her talent and dedication are UNQUESTIONED.)AND
> SHE's still over looked i THINK!
>
> >What do you want to see in the Barony's immediate future (1-2 years)?
>
> the above addressed to my satisfaction (hey you asked*smile*)
>
> oh and the return of the assassins guild AND ANOTHER REP for it along with
> marius !!!! i'm sick of his monopoly! and so are the assassins
> we don't want him GONE we just think there is room for other HOUSES to play
> that side of the game. and we want to host black white and sorta grey type
> events too. since he dosen't want to play it eccept when HE feels like it.
>   why should all assassins in the freaking  KINGDOM
> be able to play ONLY when sactioned by him?
> WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG!    it's not even period!
>
> >What do you want to see in the Barony's far future (3-5 years)?
>
> local comunity envolvement i want a FLOAT IN THE SEASONAL PARADES!
> i want demo's at OUR library not someone elses. i want to see the SCA quit
> hiding because their leadrers are wiccans and pagans afraid that the fundies
> will embarass them in church on sunday.
> AND i's like to see events at alternate locations to the stones
> (state park) WATER WATER WATER!!!!! camping cabins! BOATS!
> nothing would tickle me more than to have an event at the state park!
> it's a dream i've had ever since my first canoe ride on raven lake.
> AND GODDAMN IT HOW CAN OTHER PLACES DO IT AND WE CAN'T????
> Answer: there IS no reason we can't.
>
> >Where do you want the Barony to concentrate it's time and resources? At the
> >Kingdom level? Regional level? Baronial level? Or some combination of the
> >three?
>
> all three but in THIS ORDER  BARONY, REGION, KINGDOM!
> it's the only way that makes good sense....
>
> >Remember, HE Clarissa stated plainly that potential candidates could be
> >asked questions, but it's hard to answer questions that never get asked.
> >Maybe the questions should be asked privately, maybe not. But everyone
> >should DEFINITELY be asking themselves the above questions and many more.
> >
> >And keep in mind one thing that may have gotten overlooked in all of this :
> >The B&B may be the voice of the Crown within the Barony, but they are also
> >the voice of the Populace in the Royal Court. It works both ways. Whoever
> >gets the positions MUST KNOW what the Populace expects, just as much as
> >they
> >need to know the Crown's expectations.
>
> too true! toooo true! how can they give us someone that will give us what we
> want.  if they don't KNOW what it is we want.
> coming from somewhee else they may have differant priorities...
> differant expectations of what a barony needs. because BARONIES ARE
> differant. as the people IN them are.
>
> >
> >Maybe we all need to join Mr. Magoo on top of the mountain and get
> >ourselves
> >focused. (From "Thunderheart", for those that don't remember.)
> >
> >-- Ld. Cedric Aeschere Einarsson
> >Peer2 at msn.com
>
> your looking better and better to me Cedric!
> you at least TRY eh?
>
> and you do it OUT FRONT!  in the OPEN    their ain't enough of THAT going ON
> either.    i'll be damned if i'll vote for another person who
> won't just come out in public and speak their mind!
> that's a BAD character trait in a person.
> it's a sign of a deceitful nature!   under the table = hidden = bad
>
> safe journeys, and remember;
> RAGAN IS A GOD!
> DEATH TO THE UNBELIEVERS!
>
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