[Ravensfort] Fwd: [Ansteorra] Re: tractions and problems

[Mary R]

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Thanks for posting this.  I found it to be very insightful.  I had not thought
of it in that way..

~Mary of Axefoot
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From: L T
Reply-To: ravensfort at ansteorra.org
To: ravensfort at ansteorra.org
Subject: [Ravensfort] Fwd: [Ansteorra] Re: tractions and problems
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:12:35 -0700 (PDT)
Saw these words from Her Grace Willow
and thought they might interest ya'll
Lorraine
--- lanphier taylor wrote:
> To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
> From: lanphier taylor
> Subject: [Ansteorra] Re: tractions and problems
> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:00:35 -0500
>
>
> One of the thing that their Majesties asked of the Peers and Nobles at
> Coronation was to go out to the people and interact. The fact that our
> peers and nobles did interact with their local groups and with people who
> were not their associates was one of the reasons that our peers and
> nobles so well respected in our kingdom. I went out and I was treated
> pretty badly. No one used my title and they made a point of telling me
> not to put on any airs. Then they started telling how they were mad at
> one group or another. They wanted the Knights and Master of arms to
> teach more at regular practices, they wanted the Laurels to be less
> haughty and they wanted the nobles to create more magic. I have listened
> to hours to these kinds of complaints and I have a few things to say to
> the general populace.
>
> The peers and nobles are just like the rest of us. Most of us have
> problems dealing with people. It is hard to talk to people you don't
> know. For example a young Knight gets his belt and want to go out to
> teach people. When he gets to fighter practice no one uses his new title
> or comes out to fight with him. He doesn't want to be pushy. Everyone
> wants him to be just one of the boys but just one of the boys isn't a
> teacher. A certain amount of respect needs to be given so new people will
> listen to the knights. It would be a good idea that the knight Marshall
> in charge rounded up people and told them "here somebody with knowledge".
> Our older non-peer member can also affect the situation. Send people
> over.
>
> Laurels in general are some of our most shy peers. Artisans are shy
> people. That Laurels probably didn't past over your work because they are
> haughtily they provably past it over because they could not figure out
> how to start the conversation. A lot of people are really touchy about
> their work and really don't want the feedback. If you want to talk to
> the Laurels ask a question. Smile at them. Start a conversation. If you
> are looking to be a Laurel the fact you will talk to people will be in
> your favor. A lot of people have told me that they are having problems
> with the way the competitions are being run. Most of you have some
> Laurel you can talk to so please tell them that you are unhappy. Don't
> yell at them just tell them it is not fun. In the last years we have made
> a lot of changes to adapt to Gulf War and our interaction with other
> kingdoms. The Laurels have been excited with these new ideas. If no one
> tells us they don't like them we won't know to stop them. The Laurels in
> Ansteorra want to be leaders in the arts community, they want to
> represent you but you don't talk to them they don't know what to do.
>
> Focus on the good things. It used to be a tradition in Ansteorra that we
> spent a lot of time giving word fame to those who did well. Silence was
> our great social force. People are still doing this. That is why many
> people are not using titles or calling people by their first names or
> mundane names but the silence dose not work if you don't match it with
> the verbal, public praise. I realize that this used to be the job of the
> bards but we don't have a bardic system any more. Before the bardic
> college it was the everyday Ansteorrian's who gave out praise. You the
> petite noble, the gentry are going to have to give word fame. Please it
> is nice to do it over the list but it is best to do it in social
> gathering. If you don't anything else you will educate the potential peer
> as to what you think is good behavior.
>
> The peers and nobles are the pathways which we can communicate our needs.
> Ansteorra was set up for them to be this. Talk to them and tell them what
> is bothering you. Once we identify the problems we can start working on
> the solutions.
>
> Duchess Willow de Wisp
>
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