[Ravensfort] Hugh

Marivs byzy at charter.net
Thu May 1 01:28:49 PDT 2003


I did not call you "ignorant".  I'm sorry that you are so insecure with
yourself that you imagined I did.

You are dead wrong if you think I do not live a happy life.  I have a
wonderful wife that is as sharp as a tack and sexy as Emma Peel on the
"Avengers".  I have lots of entertaining friends.  I live in a nice, one of
a kind house in the Woodlands area.  My financial state is getting better
all the time.  I take long vacations in our RV and trips to our retreat in
west Texas.  I go to museums and concerts and plays and parties and I run
with a group of artist and Bohemians.  I have had a somewhat charmed life
and have lacked little.  I would feel selfish if I asked for more.

The only really sad part of my life is what has happened to my barony.  The
reason I do not attend meetings or events any more is it makes me unhappy to
have to deal with the delusional people here.  Some are hateful, some are
megalomaniacs, and some are just unbalanced plain and simple.  Not everyone.
There are plenty of great people still here.  They are the ones that make me
want to come back.   Unfortunately a few bad apples can spoil the whole
barrel.

You are one of the people that I am talking about when I said that your mind
is made up and you don't want to be confused with unimportant things like
facts.  If I were a liar there would be no eye witnesses to what I have
relayed and the matter would have been dropped long ago.  It is unfortunate
that many in the SCA think that ³honor² means supporting clan or family
members no matter what they do.   So you stay in you fantasy world and
believe the lies bad people have told you, but don't even try to tell me who
I am or where I'm coming from.  You don't have a clue.

M

> From: "Mary R" <rufus67 at hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: ravensfort at ansteorra.org
> Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 01:23:38 +0000
> To: ravensfort at ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] Hugh
>
> I am going to say some things that have been on my mind and in my heart.  If
> you do not care to read it..delete now..otherwise, fasten your seatbelts.
>
> I would like to thank Clarissima for the original post of information as
> there are many people who have been waiting on the outcome of this decision.
>
> I would also like to say thank you to almost everyone who has posted on this
> regardless of your opinion.  This was just support to one of our prominent
> members but quickly became twisted by Doug.  Again.  Always.  There seems to
> be in every family one person who has to try and cause mayhem.  Someone who
> is so unhappy in their own life that they SEEK out ways to hurt others.
> Someone who will lie, make as much trouble as possible and then take the
> coward's way out.  So, yes, I hope that he sticks to his past behavior in
> that I think he should just leave.
>
> There have been many good posts on this matter, and though it has been tried
> to be settled quietly and without public airing, I believe that Doug wants
> ALL of his dirty laundry aired.
>
> As I said in the past, I love this Kingdom, I love this Barony and I am so
> sick and tired of this petty bs.  At that time, Doug posted me privately
> with full copies of letters he had written to the BOD and Sheriff's Dept.,
> if he really sent them, I do not know.  What I do know is that he states
> that he was sending them to me so that I would no longer be speaking from a
> position of ignorance.  I did not ask for that information and did not
> appreciate the fact that I was called "ignorant".  So, guess what?  I am no
> longer speaking from a position of ignorance.
>
> I have viewed this matter from as many angles as possible and came to the
> conclusion that this is just another attempt by Doug to cause problems and
> make the Barony look bad.  Well, guess what?  We know the truth.
>
> Now be a man, and just GO AWAY!.
>
> Vivat those that have stood up for the Barony and against a terrorist for
> they ARE the protectors of the Barony.
>
> 'Nuff said.
>
> ~Lady Mary of Axefoot
>
> ---Original Message Follows----
> From: Hugh Killingbury <hughkillingbury at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Ravensfort] Marvis
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> It would seem the dam has burst. Albeit I normally do
> not endorse people airing personal issues on any
> public list I will at this time air my own views and
> opinions on this, as many have before me and the Lady
> Clarissima has graciously given permission for the
> populace to do so.
>
> I have written this list twice previously asking
> Marius to take this subject elsewhere as most
> considerate and reasonable people would have. He is
> still here. Griping about the same thing. My previous
> e-mails were nice and neutral, I thought. This e-mail
> is still nice, I think, but is not quite as neutral.
>
> I live in Ravensfort. My yearly membership goes to
> Ravensfort. I attend Ravensfort events and I serve at
> the events I attend. Every time I cross the cattle
> guard I feel like I am home. I love the Barony and
> will always do so and that is also the reason why it
> pains me to see this kind of hateful strife on our
> list.
>
> I have never, in the many years I have participated in
> the SCA, heard of such rubbish on a list. I feel sorry
> for the people who have to endure this on a more
> frequent and personal basis. I know of one incident
> with a knife where know one was cut but the "victim"
> was a MAN and politely and without violence ensured it
> did not happen again. Both parties remained friends
> afterwards as well. I know not if the "crime" Marius
> speaks of is true or not. Honestly at this point in
> time I really don't care.
>
> If I had an ongoing problem with another member I
> would have the common sense to leave them alone. A lot
> of people leave things alone if you just pretend they
> are not there and do not start trouble with them every
> time the chance presented itself. I especially would
> not be in "knife range" if I were in fear for my life.
>
> If I were in fear for my life I wouldn't have been
> there at all. Of course this would bring into play
> sense and reason, evidently two things Marius does not
> posses. Notice, even if Mistress Lorraine was bitter
> about the Banishment we did not read about it on the
> list. We do get to read about how Marius is losing his
> bladder everytime he is in her presence and how afraid
> he is to set foot at a RF event. We hear about how
> everyone is so mean to poor Marius. If this is all
> true why are you here? Is it because you are a better
> "MAN"? I think not. It's because you like the
> attention and you enjoy causing problems for other
> people. WOW what a life you have I pity you.
>
> THIS IS PATHETIC. You seem to be the kind of worm the
> girls beat up in school. The kind that would come out
> and start trouble and then run to his teacher telling
> her how everyone hated him. Poor thing. You better
> have Mommy buy a bigger apron for you to hide behind.
> Aren't you getting kind of old for this?
>
> I agree with Argent Bear. I also believe you are a
> COWARD, LIAR and TROUBLE MAKER. I also believe the
> Populace of Ravensfort would be much better off
> without you.
>
> In Service,
> Lord Hugh Killingbury
>
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