[Ravensfort] List Postings ! ! !

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>From: Kief av Kiersted <sirkief at yahoo.com>
>To: ravensfort at ansteorra.org, ldeerslayer at yahoo.com, 
>sdwsdw30 at totalzone.com,        env_drh at shsu.edu
>Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] List Postings ! ! !
>Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 16:09:35 -0800 (PST)
>
>Heilsa Mr. Hoffpauir...
>
>Since you asked for clarification.
>
>It's simple actually. It's the same disaffected few that caused
>all the problems four years ago. And now, those that they have
>duped into believing they have "done nothing wrong".
>
>Doug B. LeJeune
>David Epps
>Charlotte Epps
>
>and now add
>
>David R. Hoffpauir
>
>Time and distance from the events of years past have not changed
>the nature of their wrongful acts nor has it erased the memory of
>that wrongdoing.
>
>If you or anyone else has a "problem" with this...sue me. You
>can't change the facts nor can you "revise" history.
>
>I wish you a good day.
>
>
>Kief, Vicar
>"Better the Hammer than the nail..."
>
>=======================
>
>--- "David R. Hoffpauir" <env_drh at shsu.edu> wrote:
>
> > Hey Barbara,
> >
> > Right on!  They made a wise choice, I'm sure the Crown had your
> > full support
> > and council.
> >
> > I have a question.  As you know, I completely stepped away from
> > the SCA just
> > about three years ago.  Quit going to meetings, fighter
> > practices, work
> > days, hanging out with SCA people (aside from a few personal
> > friends who are
> > mostly like all Raven's Hearts, Court Baronies, Knights, and
> > Dons and such).
> > I quit talking about SCA things, was off the RF list for almost
> > 2 years, and
> > quit going to
> > events.  I've maybe been to four events total since you guys
> > stepped up.
> > And, of course, you know, I spent most of your first year as
> > B&B in Killeen,
> > then Berta's Grandpa was ill, then she and I split up, she
> > bought a house,
> > moved out, yada, yada, yada, life goes on, so not much time to
> > focus on SCA
> > stuff, plus, on top of it all, after 7 1/2 fun, exciting, and
> > prosperous
> > years as one of the local Landed Nobles, I just needed a break.
> >  I'm sure
> > you understand.  Anyway, point being, I'm out of the loop and
> > would like to
> > become active again, but have some new faces to meet.
> >
> > So who is this unnamed, lingering menace again?  Paul has
> > mentioned them,
> > now you've mentioned them.  Even HE Lorraine has eluded to them
> > over on the
> > Amazon list.  I just wanna steer clear if they're all that bad.
> >   All I need
> > is another trusted confidant, advisor, or friend who doesn't
> > mind dragging
> > my name through the mud, gut-slitting my every effort, or
> > talking smack,
> > like all around the Kingdom, you know.  Darn shame, got to
> > watch your back
> > these days.  From your words, I'd say it sounds like the SCA
> > isn't quite as
> > friendly and open as it was four years ago.  Oh well, times
> > change.  Good
> > luck in Austin.  :)
> >
> > Vivez dans la paix, victoire dans la guerre
> >
> > dsd
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Barbara Gilbert" <kezia at pbgilbert.net>
> > To: <ravensfort at ansteorra.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:02 PM
> > Subject: [Ravensfort] congradulations
> >
> >
> > > I send hearty good wishes and support for Sir Kief and
> > Mistress Lorraine
> > on
> > > becoming the Vicar and Vicaress of Ravens Fort. They did not
> > seek this
> > job,
> > > but because of all the crap that has come from this Barony in
> > the last 3+
> > > years the Crown felt this was best for Ravens Fort. Keif and
> > Lorraine
> > travel
> > > playing on a kingdom level and have for years. They know and
> > talk to
> > people
> > > from every group within the Barony. They understand what the
> > expectations
> > > are, and they understand SCA rules and policies. The Crown
> > has charged
> > them
> > > to teach the ways of the current SCA, to help the Barony
> > grow, and to
> > > protect it from those that would set it backwards.
> > >
> > > The officers, Barony Guard and the Order of the Raven have
> > been given the
> > > same charge. Keif and Lorraine are the new leadership of
> > Ravens Fort,
> > chosen
> > > by the Crown. Congratulations.
> > >
> > > Kezia
>
>-----------------------
>
> >From: "David R. Hoffpauir" <env_drh at shsu.edu>
> >Reply-To: The Barony of Ravensfort <ravensfort at ansteorra.org>
> >To: "The Barony of Ravensfort" <ravensfort at ansteorra.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] List Postings ! ! !
> >Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 15:04:50 -0600
> >
> >Hey Shane,
> >
> >There's nothing fiery there dude.  An issue was thrown out in
>several
> >proceeding posts, and I asked for clarification.  That's how you
>avoid
> >conflict.  You know, ask questions.  Accept and/ or evaluate the
>answers you
> >are given. This is a discussion list.  Or at least, it was,
>during the,
> >whatever, 9 years when I ran it.
> >
> >Granted, I have a sharp tongue, especially in the written word,
>so if
> >someone is offended, I apologize.  If someone reads the post and
>sees
> >themself somehow reflected in my words, then that's good.  We
>have common
> >ground from which to find an aminable resolution.  Let's talk.
>It's those
> >who internalize their concerns and fail to ask the appropriate
>questions
> >that find demons at every turn.
> >
> >Vivez dans la paix, victoire dans la guerre
> >regards,
> >dsd
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Shane Wallace" <sdwsdw30 at totalzone.com>
> >To: "The Barony of Ravensfort" <ravensfort at ansteorra.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 1:53 PM
> >Subject: [Ravensfort] List Postings ! ! !
> >
> >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > >     Before the "Soap Opera" begins, I would like to make a
>plea for
> > > PEACE. During a time of transition, regardless if you in
>agreement or
> > > disagreement with crown and the powers to be, WE need to
>stick together
> > > as Friends and Family should. If you truly care about the
>group, then
> > > please keep fiery postings off the Main Raven's Fort List.
>Send them
> > > through means of Private email.
> > >
> > >     At a time like this WE must do what is best for the WHOLE
>group. I
> > > would like to remind the populace that... We are friends...
>We are a
> > > family in our own right. Please do what is best for the
>group. Please ! !
> >!
> > >
> > > In Service to the Dream, Kingdom, and Barony,
> > > Lord Malcolm De Crauford
> > > Seneschal of Raven's Fort
> > >
> > > P.S. If anyone is in disagreement with what I have posted,
>you may
> > > contact me directly at
> > > sdwsdw30 at totalzone.com
>
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