[Ravensfort] Fwd: Re: [Ansteorra] What has happened?

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Tue Oct 4 15:47:15 PDT 2005


Master Robert's reply...

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--- David Whitford <dbw6969 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 07:43:34 -0700 (PDT)
> From: David Whitford <dbw6969 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] What has happened?
> To: rudin at mail.ev1.net,
>         "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
> CC: 
> 
> Thank you Robin. As near as I can tell every group
> (culture, nationality, clubs, etc) has bemoaned the
> failings of the current times and wished for a return
> to the "good ole days", and if we were to look a
> little closer at those times they really weren't all
> that good. The best we can do IMO is to try and be as
> good as we can and try to make those in our sphere of
> influence be the best they can.
> Robert
> 
> 
> --- rudin <rudin at mail.ev1.net> wrote:
> 
> > I think it's important not to over-romanticize the
> > Society of
> > twenty-five years ago.  
> > 
> > I picked up cigarette butts and other trash on
> > Monday morning at
> > my first Steppes Warlord, accompanied by people who
> > told me that
> > the SCA always left a site cleaner than we found it.
> >  That didn't
> > mean, even then, that nobody left trash out -- it
> > meant that some
> > of us went around and picked up trash at the end of
> > the event. 
> > The same thing happens today.  It was just *easier*
> > to pick up
> > after 70 people in 1979 than after several hundred
> > people today.
> > 
> > When I joined the SCA, the first kingdom newsletter
> > I received had
> > a letter from somebody who was resigning all of her
> > awards and
> > leaving because Chivalry had died, the Dream was
> > dead, people were
> > no longer helping and supporting each other, respect
> > was gone,
> > etc.  That was in the 1970s.  I have heard similar
> > statements ever
> > since.
> > 
> > Don Quixote was about the lost knightly virtues;
> > King Arthur was
> > trying to hold back the encroaching barbarism. 
> > Renaissance
> > tournaments were attempts to hold onto a vanishing
> > way of life;
> > the Middle Ages wished for the glories of Rome; Rome
> > mourned for
> > the loss of the great Greek society, which pined for
> > the lost
> > Golden Age. 
> > 
> > OF COURSE Chivalry is dying.  Chivalry is *always*
> > dying.  It was
> > dying in the Renaissance.  It was dying in the
> > Middle Ages.  It
> > will be dying one hundred years hence.
> > 
> > Chivalry is always and forever on the brink of
> > death, and will
> > always and forever need immediate first aid.  From
> > you.  From me.
> > 
> > Go pick up somebody else's trash (as well as your
> > own).  Go carry
> > someone's ice chest for her.  Go believe well of
> > someone despite
> > the rumor you heard.  Go apologize for last week's
> > mistake.  Go
> > defend someone you don't like.
> > 
> > And hurry.  Chivalry is dying.
> > 
> > Robin of Gilwell/Jay Rudin 
> > 
> >
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> > 
> > 
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