[Ravensfort] Defender of the Fort question

Sat May 22 12:15:46 PDT 2010

Cease and desist....this thread is over!! the question was a simple one, and i believe it has been answered.  If there is anything else to be said on the matter please keep it private.  I know that many people do not want to see things going on in a public forum that do not pertain to the subject at hand!

Mirabelis
Co mod of this list....

next of anything that could be taken in any kind of personal matter will get you moderated!

Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 12:07:28 -0700
From: m_meaux05 at yahoo.com
To: sirkief at hotmail.com; ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org; byzytym at att.net
Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] Defender of the Fort question

Peace,
Volod NotVlad

"When the only tool you have is a hammer,
every problem looks like a nail."
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The above is in my view an insult or jibe and is very inappropriate.  I would ask that this forum not be used in this manner.

Lady Marie de Meaux

--- On Sat, 5/22/10, byzytym <byzytym at att.net> wrote:

From: byzytym <byzytym at att.net>
Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] Defender of the Fort question
To: "Kief av Kiersted" <sirkief at hotmail.com>, ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org
Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 12:52 PM

The system in current use is indeed a good one.
It is why so many use it.
Popularity has never been a reason for trying something new.
Each Baron and Baroness will do as they will.
I was just sharing an idea put forth to me by Don Robert.

Peace,
Volod NotVlad

"When the only tool you have is a hammer,
every problem looks like a nail."

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Kief av Kiersted 
To: ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org 
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 4:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] Defender of the Fort question

Heilsa all...

A Barony holds annual events... A Baronial Championship *is* a big deal... If I'm not mistaken every Barony in this Kingdom holds some type of yearly Champions event...

Shires don't hold annual Championship events...nor do Cantons, Strongholds, or Colleges... Get the drift here...?

If the Barony wishes to make Raven's Fort's Defender a "really big deal" then put on a **really big deal** event... Simple...yes...?

The event where a new Baron and/or Baroness are elevated is called an Investiture...it is usually held at the Baronial Championship event...and that makes it extra-special...it doesn't happen often...nor should it happen often.

If one wishes to know the current number of the Defender event...well, then...figure out what year number 20 or 25 was...then count forward... Simple...no...?

Our current Baron and Baroness are right Good and Noble people...well Respected by the Royal Family...and Honored by the Crown...after all They do continue to let Their Excellencies Brian and Fionna hold Their lands in fief...

Enough said for now... I'm out in the world again working my buttocks off...go figure... I miss you guys something terrible...hope to be home again soon...

Wæs Þu Hæl in TroÞ and FriÞ...! 

"War...! Where Men and Women of Consequence use "tools" to protect the Freedom of all Peoples...even those "persons" that despise them for doing so..."  

Sir Kief - Baron Raven's Fort, Pelican, Lion of Ansteorra, Augmentation of Arms

"Better the Hammer than the nail..." 

From: byzytym at att.net
To: ldjamesnorthfolke at gmail.com; herrdetlef at gmail.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 19:01:34 -0500
CC: ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org
Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] Defender of the Fort question

Defender every three years would be good.

Better still, would be to hold a Championship when a new B&B is invested.
Then keep the Champion as long as they serve the Barony 
or until a new B&B steps up.
The frequency would be totally up to the B&B's discretion.
It would make the actual event a really, really big deal.
It would also be a break from doing the same old dance year after year.
Just an idea that I've heard kicked around.

Peace,
Volod NotVlad

----- Original Message ----- 
From: James Northfolke 
To: HerrDetlef 
Cc: ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org 
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] Defender of the Fort question

Defender I.  My first attempt was rained out and we just had morning court. My second attempt was hurricaned out. My third attempt was great. So defender every 3 years. 

Sent from my iPad

On May 16, 2010, at 4:36 PM, HerrDetlef <herrdetlef at gmail.com> wrote:

I can't remember which one was III, but I was at it, so that would be either 1988 or 1989, the year of the first Investiture.

It couldn't have been 1990, because I know there was a Defender in 1987 (1990 was IV or V). I didn't go to the one in 1987, but I had been to Kingdom Bardic College in Conroe that summer (Hector and Rowan were still King and Queen).

So the question is: Was there a Defender in 1986? If there was, then 1988 was Defender III; if not, 1989 was Defender III.

Another clue: Seamus and Karlanna were King and Queen in 1987, while Inman and Drusilla were King and Queen in 1986. Who was on the throne at the first Defender?

So...

if Defender I was in 1986 (with Inman and Drusilla on the thrones), Defender III was in 1988, Defender XXIII would have been in 2008, and this year would be Defender XXV. If Defender I was in 1987 (with Seamus and Karlanna on the thrones), Defender III would have been in 1989, Defender XXIII would have been in 2009, and this year would be Defender XXIV.

Detlef

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 4:16 PM, David Brown <lddevin03 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Which Defender will this be?
I think last year was 21 1/2 since number 21
was hurricaned out.

Devin

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