[Ravensfort] budget
David Brown
lddevin03 at yahoo.com
Sun Feb 13 09:10:49 PST 2011
You are correct. It is my choice. If the wave of the future in the SCA is
electronic kingdom newsletters and local newsletters, then I will feel that we
are losing things that make us a unique group. That is my right and my feelings.
Take it at that.
Devin
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From: Sher M <runa.herd at earthlink.net>
To: Barony of Raven's Fort <ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 10:45:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] budget
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is to hold a
warranted office you have to be a paying member.
Lady Runa of The Thundering Herd
Barony of Raven's Fort
Knight Marshal
Deputy Minister of Arts
Apprentice to Mistress Shanahan
----- Original Message -----
>From: David Brown
>To: Cathal SilAlmhain ; ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org
>Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 10:03 AM
>Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] budget
>
>
>And that is what I plan to do. I will not be renewing my membership when it
>comes time. I think the SCA is becoming too modern. Sure we need the things of
>our modern world but we are supposed to be re-creating pre 17th century Europe.
>To my knowledge they did not have electronic newsletters or any other form of
>electronic communication.
>Whats next?
>I guess we can have virtual events.
>
>Devin
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From: Cathal SilAlmhain <silalmhain at yahoo.com>
>To: ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org
>Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 9:53:40 AM
>Subject: [Ravensfort] budget
>
>That was a nice email. Just a few observations:
>
>The two-second background: I am an attorney, and I have sat as both officer and
>director of a dozen non-for profit groups, including one that has ten times the
>annual budget of the SCA.
>
>BOD meetings and expenses (lines 54-56) total $89,650, or 7% of the total
>expenditures. If they are having quarterly meetings, that is $20,000+ per
>meeting. That does seem a bit like overkill. If they are having more than
>quarterly meetings, they need to stop.
>
>Really, I am much more concerned about line 65, bank and credit card fees. Now
>that is a total waste of money.
>
>Notice also that we can cut $45,000 by eliminating membership cards (have the
>member print the info from the web and do all renewal online).
>
>I am also really concerned about line 22. $23,000 in interest/dividend income
>means that (by reverse extrapolation) at--let's be generous and say 5% interest,
>which is unrealistically generous, but, for the sake of arguement--that means
>the SCA inc. has $460,000 squirreled away somewhere, just gaining interest. If
>it is at 2% interest, which is more likely, then it has over a million in
>savings. For what?
>
>Everybody: having a rainy day fund for your own personal finances is a very
>smart thing to do, and I recommend it. Having a rainy day fund for your
>business is also smart, in order to take care of the unexpected. Having a rainy
>day fund for a non-profit that delivers non-essential services (essential
>services are health care, homeless shelter, etc.,--stuff that if not provided,
>someone might die) is simply mismanagement. It is prudent people who think they
>are doing a smart thing, when in fact they are just shoving a square peg into a
>round hole.
>
>Lastly, look at the three biggest single-line item expenses. 1. salaries. I
>don't think anyone is going to argue that they don't deserve to be paid for the
>work that they do, and it is unlikely (although possible) that they are overpaid
>for their work. 2. newsletter stipends paid for kingdom newsletters. We are
>long overdue for switching to electronic media. Purists and aesthetes can argue
>for the enjoyment of a hardcopy all they want, in the end it is just wasted
>paper, time, and money. However, if we cut that, you can guarantee that they
>won't be cutting memebrship fees (just give up on that idea, it ain't gonna
>happen) and so we are rightly concerned about what line item they are going to
>increase. 3. Insurance. Well, we gotta have that.
>
>I suggest that we establish our own rainy-day sinking fund for the production of
>a limited number of local newsletters, and switch to our own online version
>immediately, if we have not already done so. Alternatively, switch everyone to
>electronic, distribute it via this list (or other email address as necessary),
>and allow for harcopies to be produced and purchased for additional expense.
>
>Incidentally, the best way to protest this change, if protest you want, is to
>not renew your membership, and tell them that you will not be renewing for so
>long as they continue with their policy. Hit them in their #1 income line:
>membership fees. I applaud dom and charles for renewing for 3 years, but I
>always pay yearly, so that I can bank on saying no, and not paying, whenever the
>empire does something I don't like.
>
>Just my thoughts, dear friends.
>Cathal
>the anti-federalist
>
>
>
>
>--- On Sat, 2/12/11, Joe McGrew <oscagne at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Joe McGrew <oscagne at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] Fw: [Ansteorra-announce] [Announcements] Newsletter
>>Production Stipends
>> To: ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org
>> Date: Saturday, February 12, 2011, 12:13 PM
>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 1:59 PM, SF
>> Tester <sftester2 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I'd like to see how much is spent on the board
>> meetings, salaries,
>> > transportation, meals, and so on, personally.
>>
>> Ok...
>>
>> http://www.sca.org/officers/treasurer/2010budget.xls
>>
>> Gregor
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