<DIV>Actually no, it did not have any undertones. All I ask from the members of the Barony was, if they wanted to write letters about their hobby of the SCA and prehaps share a picture of theirselves in garb. I thought it would give the person receiving it a great story to tell and pictures to show. Originally I suggested a penny drive but since someone has graciously donated the shipping of the package we no longer need to do that. I met several people at Gulf War several months back from other kingdoms and I know they were soon to leave to go overseas. I was hoping one of our packages either got to them or at the very least one of the stories from the soldiers would get back to a SCA member and they would know we are thinking of them. Not at anytime did I ask for the Barony to help pay anything, I simply ask for letters and pictures from the members of the Barony. There were no undertones. And anyone who knows me knows I have no hidden agenda. I want to help our soldiers because I
love my country and I like my lifestyle and I like being able to play in the SCA and I want to let the people willing to give their life to protect that way of life how much I really appreciate it. And to bring a smile to a soldiers face. Nothing else. And for that matter of fact I figured even with the penny drive I would never raise enough money to pay the shipping and I would pay the difference myself. But now I have a sponser on the shipping and I can buy more items to ship overseas to our great army of knights. And that is all there was to it. Nothing more and nothing less.</DIV>
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<DIV>In Service, Love</DIV>
<DIV><BR><B><I>Paul Gilbert <niklas@pbgilbert.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Hi......<BR><BR>Maybe I did not explain well enough......<BR><BR>The project does not have to be from the barony....but the undertones of <BR>what was being posted indicated that it was headed in that direction, so <BR>thus the post I presented to make sure all our ducks were in a row and <BR>correctly quacking.<BR><BR>There is no reason it can't be and in fact, it would really be best, if the <BR>project came from a group of individuals for the reasons you and others <BR>have cited.<BR><BR>It is a good idea, but just needs some direction and care.<BR><BR>Hope that helps explain better.<BR><BR>Niklas<BR><BR><BR>At 06:25 PM 7/22/04 -0700, you wrote:<BR>>Why does it have to come from the "Barony"? Why can't<BR>>it just come from a group of people wanting to help?<BR>>Love already seems to have this under control.<BR>><BR>>I think this is a great idea, but we need to
remember<BR>>that everything doesn't have to be "offical". We can<BR>>get together as a community to perform an act. That<BR>>way, if someone doesn't agree, NO BIG DEAL! No one<BR>>ever suggested using Baronial funds to support this<BR>>project. We aren't trying to represent the group as a<BR>>whole and can act accordingly without having to worry<BR>>about offense or accounting.<BR>><BR>>That said, I haven't seen any opposition to this idea,<BR>>just different opinions. All opinions are valid to<BR>>the holder. So let's not bog this potentially great<BR>>project with the "oh my god, let's not offend anyone"<BR>>song and dance.<BR>><BR>>O.K., that's my inflamatory post for the year.<BR>>Apparently this is a sore spot with me.<BR>><BR>>Clarissima<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>--- Paul Gilbert <NIKLAS@PBGILBERT.NET>wrote:<BR>> > Hi....<BR>> ><BR>> > Before anything can be done on this project....a<BR>>
> little housekeeping has to<BR>> > be done.<BR>> ><BR>> > If this program is going to be done in the name of<BR>> > the Barony, it needs to<BR>> > be approved by the officers and the B&B.<BR>> ><BR>> > I have not heard of or seen any such action being or<BR>> > have been taken.<BR>> ><BR>> > I am not against this project (in fact I think it is<BR>> > a good idea), but if<BR>> > it is to be done in the name of the Barony, it needs<BR>> > to be done in an<BR>> > organized and proper fashion with means of control<BR>> > and organization.<BR>> ><BR>> > Here is what I highly suggest we do....<BR>> ><BR>> > At the Aug populace, discuss the plan and project,<BR>> > make a plan and stick to<BR>> > it. I suggest that Love write up the idea and plan<BR>> > and bring it to the<BR>> > meeting for all to read.<BR>> ><BR>> > Do not drag this
out for months talking about it.<BR>> > Have a simple straight<BR>> > forward idea and plan and have one or two people<BR>> > coordinating it. Since it<BR>> > was Love's idea, I would suggest Love and one other<BR>> > person to help her.<BR>> ><BR>> > Once the plan is set, move forward. Make up a list<BR>> > of things for folks to<BR>> > have that they can pick from and donate or one could<BR>> > give cash and items be<BR>> > purchased and sent.<BR>> ><BR>> > Have a set number of packages per month and stick to<BR>> > it. However, and we<BR>> > need to check on this...I do not think we can use<BR>> > any baronial funds for<BR>> > this either for shipping or items. I would suggest<BR>> > pass the hat to cover<BR>> > the shipping or as Mary suggested, someone sponsor a<BR>> > package for shipping.<BR>> ><BR>> > I will endeavor to be at that populace
meeting.<BR>> ><BR>> > We just need a plan and we need to have a high level<BR>> > of agreement within<BR>> > the Barony for this project due to it's hotly<BR>> > political issue.<BR>> ><BR>> > Now.......let me make really sure all understand<BR>> > this.............<BR>> ><BR>> > I am, repeat...I am not against this idea.<BR>> ><BR>> > We just need to make sure we can do it under the<BR>> > Barony's name and have a<BR>> > plan to do it with, rather that shooting from the<BR>> > hip and not hitting anything.<BR>> ><BR>> > If anyone has any questions, please let me know.<BR>> > Just trying to head off<BR>> > any possible problems before they occur and make the<BR>> > project fun for all.<BR>> ><BR>> > HE Niklas<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > At 10:11 PM 7/21/04 -0700, you wrote:<BR>> > >Mary that is a wonderful
idea if we can get a<BR>> > sponsor. I also checked the<BR>> > >only company other than USPS that delivers to the<BR>> > troops is DHL but they<BR>> > >are more expensive. We can do both get a sponsor if<BR>> > someone wants to be a<BR>> > >sponsor and the "Save a Penny" drive to tell you<BR>> > the truth. If anyone<BR>> > >would like to sponsor the postage to send a care<BR>> > package one month please<BR>> > >let me know. Or if you would just like to donate<BR>> > some pennies or nickles<BR>> > >or dimes or quarters that would be great. I do not<BR>> > know yet if I will be<BR>> > >able to attend the next fighter practice I know<BR>> > forsure I will be at the<BR>> > >August 8th fighter practice. That gives everyone a<BR>> > couple of weeks to<BR>> > >save pennies and to pick up a donation or two. I<BR>> > will also be at the<BR>> >
>August populace on the 5th.<BR>> > ><BR>> > >In Service, Love<BR>> > ><BR>> > >Mary R <SIRENSSONG@SBCGLOBAL.NET>wrote:<BR>> > >I was told that the Post Office is the cheapest way<BR>> > to send<BR>> > >packages. Please keep in mind that my package went<BR>> > to an APO address (LSA<BR>> > >Anaconda). The Save a Penny drive sounds good, but<BR>> > might take longer to<BR>> > >get the funds. What if someone sponsored a package<BR>> > each month? As in we<BR>> > >get the food and what nots for the package but the<BR>> > postage is sponsored by<BR>> > >a different person? I dunno, just a thought. I<BR>> > will be at Fighter<BR>> > >Practice on Sunday. Maybe we can discuss it<BR>> > further then.<BR>> > ><BR>> > >Lady Mary of Axefoot<BR>> > ><BR>> > >Jan Aarons <LOVEOFHALESWORTH@YAHOO.COM>wrote:<BR>> >
>However, I still would still like to do the "Save a<BR>> > Penny" drive.<BR>> > >In Service,<BR>> > >Love of Halesworth<BR>> > >Minister of Arts and Science<BR>> ><BR>> ><mailto:loveofhalesworth@yahoo.com>loveofhalesworth@yahoo.com<BR>> > ><BR>> > >_______________________________________________<BR>> > >Ravensfort mailing list<BR>> > >Ravensfort@ansteorra.org<BR>> ><BR>> >http://www.ansteorra.org/mailman/listinfo/ravensfort<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > >Do you Yahoo!?<BR>> ><BR>> ><HTTP: votelifeengine yahoo advision.webevents.yahoo.com />Vote<BR>> > for the<BR>> > >stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign!<BR>> > >_______________________________________________<BR>> > >Ravensfort mailing list<BR>> > >Ravensfort@ansteorra.org<BR>> ><BR>> >http://www.ansteorra.org/mailman/listinfo/ravensfort<BR>>
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