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<P>devin<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 6/17/08, Kief av Kiersted <I><sirkief@hotmail.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></P>
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Heilsa all...<BR><BR>This is a blatant provocation...<BR><BR>Wæs Þu Hæl in TroÞ and FriÞ...!<BR>Kief<BR>"Better the Hammer than the nail..."<BR><BR>=========<BR><BR><BR>
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From: byzytym@att.net<BR>To: byzytym@att.net; ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org<BR>Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:37:02 -0500<BR>Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] site rules<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">I would like to make a statement strictly as an individual and a long time member of the Barony of Raven's Fort. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">I feel that the land agent over stepped reason when making up his arbitrary rules when it comes to on site taverns. The rules seem to be directed at specific individuals for personal reasons, rather than to correct any problems that has arisen in the past or any breach of SCA or mundane law or any request that the land owners themselves have made. Of course, we have no way to know the desires of the land owners since the SCA has never been allowed to deal directly with the land owners. The imbalance of the site rule policy is notably demonstrated by the fact that in the same period of time: the old Raven's Fort Tavern was forcibly evicted (for fabricated infractions) by the land agent, the current site rules were issued by the land agent and the on site "Mead Hall" was built by the land agent. I will not presume to suggest a solution to this dilemma of
secrecy and whim. Perhaps the officers of the Barony can facilitate a return to a fair site policy that embraces the true spirit of our society. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">That said, the Autocrat of the Defender of the Fort event shall enforce what ever is handed up from the site rule dictator no matter how calculated. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Pax,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Andy size=3>MARIVS</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">"what shall it profit a man,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">if he shall gain the whole world,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">and lose his own soul ?"</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228) 0% 50%; FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>From:</B> <A title=byzytym@att.net href="mailto:byzytym@att.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow>byzytym</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B> <A title=byzytym@att.net href="mailto:byzytym@att.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow>byzytym</A> ; <A title=magnus77840@hotmail.com href="mailto:magnus77840@hotmail.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>doug bell</A> ; <A title=ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org href="mailto:ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:09 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">If the rules are not updated this is the most resent version that we will go with for Defender. There will be an Autocrat's amendment added.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Pax,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Andy size=3>MARIVS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">"what shall it profit a man,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">if he shall gain the whole world,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">and lose his own soul ?"</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>================*****************==================<BR><BR><BR>SITE RULES FOR THE STONES OF RAVEN'S FORT ON THE DORRELL RANCH<BR><BR>-----<BR><BR>GENERAL<BR><BR>This is working Ranch and hunting lease. If you open a gate,<BR>close it behind you. Do not agitate any livestock. Do not kill or<BR>attempt to kill any wild animals. Do not cut down any live trees<BR>or their limbs. Do not use nails, bolts, hooks, wire, etc, in any<BR>tree.<BR><BR>Do not cross fence lines onto any neighbor's property.<BR><BR>Do not leave small children unattended or sleeping in a tent<BR>without trustworthy supervision.<BR><BR>All pet mammals must have current written proof of rabies<BR>vaccination. Leashes please, no pets shall be allowed to "run<BR>free".<BR><BR>All horses must have current written proof of negative Coggins<BR>test.<BR><BR>NO FIRE-PITS are allowed. Fires on the surface, fire-mounds,<BR>fire-rings, and enclosed fireplaces are allowed. Fire-rings
and<BR>enclosed fireplaces must be movable. If there is a hole or pit in<BR>your camp, fill it in.<BR><BR>Deadfall, fallen limbs/trees, may be gleaned anywhere on site.<BR>However, the bonfire stack, the kitchen woodpile, and any<BR>"private" camp woodpiles are private use only.<BR><BR>All woodpiles must be neatly stacked between two trees or posts,<BR>on a rack and off the ground. Use bricks, concrete blocks, or<BR>treated timbers to elevate your woodpile. This helps discourage<BR>vermin and rot.<BR><BR>Absolutely NO cans, bottles, or other non-combustibles are to be<BR>put in fires. Do NOT burn plastics or other objects that produce<BR>toxic smoke.<BR><BR>Excessively large fires in campsites are not allowed.<BR>"Excessively large" means a stack of firewood wider than four<BR>feet (4’) and higher than three feet (3’).<BR><BR>A minimum of four feet (4’) of cleared space is required around<BR>fire area, unless you have an enclosed
fireplace.<BR><BR>All tiki type torches need to be placed a minimum of three "3<BR>feet beyond their "falling distance" to the nearest tent.<BR><BR>No unattended candles or other sources of flame in tents.<BR><BR>A fire extinguisher or equivalent must be in camp and in plain<BR>sight, if you have a fire. Equivalent means a minimum of a shovel<BR>and a bucket or container (minimum 5 gallons) of sand or water.<BR><BR>In *dry weather* FIRES ARE NOT PERMITTED without permission of<BR>the Land Liaison.<BR><BR>ALL TRASH MUST BE REMOVED AT THE END OF EACH EVENT. If you hauled<BR>it in...haul it out.<BR><BR>-----<BR><BR>RAVEN'S FORT COMMONS<BR><BR>"Raven's Fort Commons" consists of, but is not limited to, the<BR>following locations and the area surrounding them: List Field,<BR>Kitchen / Storeroom, Merchant / Tavern, Feast, Court, Baronial<BR>Tents, Bonfire, RF Central, Gatekeeper.<BR><BR>Merchants, including Tavernkeepers, shall set up their facilities<BR>in
the area within Raven's Fort Commons set aside for that<BR>purpose. Merchant spaces are "first come - first served" unless<BR>prior arrangements are made.<BR><BR>Taverns will not serve alcohol. Taverns may serve food and<BR>non-alcoholic drink only. Operating hours for Taverns are between<BR>6:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. Merchants and Tavernkeepers camping in<BR>Raven's Fort Commons shall not host overly large or "come one -<BR>come all" type revels.<BR><BR>All Taverns must be temporary. There will no longer be any<BR>permanent "private" Tavern site on the Dorrell Ranch. No one will<BR>be allowed to set up a "private camp" with the sole or majority<BR>purpose of having a "private" Tavern.<BR><BR>Large gatherings may be hosted in the "private" campsites of<BR>individuals or Households. All gatherings where alcohol is served<BR>shall strictly comply with the rules of the SCA, Inc. the laws of<BR>the State of Texas, and of the United States.<BR><BR>Alcohol may
*only* be given away by individuals or households in<BR>the confines of their "private" campsites. Absolutely no money<BR>will change hands before, during, or after the gathering for the<BR>dispersal of home brewed alcohol of any kind. There shall be no<BR>sale or donation-at-the-place-of-serving for the dispensing of<BR>legally purchased alcohol.<BR><BR>All individuals hosting or serving alcohol at a gathering<BR>automatically assume all liability for the results of serving<BR>alcohol. All hosts must check IDs, shall not allow minors to<BR>drink, and shall be responsible for preventing individuals from<BR>drinking to excess. Absolutely no "open keg" type situations will<BR>be tolerated.<BR><BR>No gatherings are allowed in Raven's Fort Commons or other<BR>"public areas" when large quantities of alcohol are "being passed<BR>around".<BR><BR>If necessary, the option of licensed Officers on private duty is<BR>already in place.<BR><BR>The Barony reserves the
right to set up or build a public<BR>gathering place and utilize it for those purposes that support<BR>and fulfill the needs of the Barony and the goals of the SCA,<BR>Inc.<BR><BR>-----<BR><BR>ESTABLISHING AND MAINTAINING A CAMPSITE<BR><BR>To establish a "Private" or "Group / Household" Campsite ask the<BR>Land Liaison, Lee Cockerham (Kief) to assist you in finding an<BR>unused space.<BR><BR>Mark the perimeters or corners of your camp with one of the<BR>following: Treated posts, pipe, large stones, or other<BR>non-obtrusive object. Paint your livery colors on the markers.<BR>Markers must be at least 30 inches tall. Use as few markers as<BR>possible, place them as close to trees as possible,to allow for<BR>mowing and spraying.<BR><BR>Permanent fences, ground level barriers, and the use of fresh cut<BR>or untreated wood for "ground contact purposes" that interfere<BR>with mowing and spraying are not allowed.<BR><BR>All structures and equipment in camps
must be portable.<BR><BR>All chairs, tables, garbage cans, etc, must be stacked neatly and<BR>secured to prevent the weather and the cattle from scattering<BR>them about. The preferred stowage spot is on, or immediately next<BR>to, your woodpile.<BR><BR>All camps are to be maintained (mowed, raked, and cleared of<BR>dead-fall) a minimum of once per year. Each individual or group<BR>utilizing a campsite is responsible for its upkeep.<BR><BR>Each camp must be used or maintained at least once per year. If<BR>not, then that individual or group may lose the privilege of<BR>maintaining their private / group Campsite.<BR><BR>Work days / weekends will be arranged throughout the year.<BR>Contact the Land Liaison, Seneschal, Event Steward(s), or Baron<BR>and Baroness for dates to come up and work on the site.<BR><BR>======================<BR><BR>LEE COCKERHAM - LAND LIASION TO THE DORRELL RANCH - 26 JULY 2005<BR><BR>These site rules are subject to change without
notice.<BR><BR>==================*******************===============<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228) 0% 50%; FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>From:</B> <A title=byzytym@att.net href="mailto:byzytym@att.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow>byzytym</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B> <A title=magnus77840@hotmail.com href="mailto:magnus77840@hotmail.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>doug bell</A> ; <A title=ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org href="mailto:ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 12, 2008 7:27 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Way ahead of you Magnus. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">I planned to give the historian and the Seneschal a copy of my event report complete with personal comments. Perhaps the local Herald should keep a copy of the Champions as well. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">One of the things that I am going to request / require from our members running the competitions is a COMPLETE SCA name and SCA home area of at least the winners. It may not hurt to get some kind of contact number as well. Phone, email, street address, any number they think that they might have a year from now. It would sure make things easier.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Of course I document all of the events that I Autocrat for my own files. </FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman">Wanna know how many people came to JellyStone Park Saint Patrick's Day weekend 1989 for Black, White and Sort of Greenish Gray ? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">I'm sure that I have a set of rules from the last time I Autocrated in 2001, but I'm also sure that they have been customizes since then. A newer version is required.</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Perhaps Baron Brian can get new a copy for us.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Pax,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Andy size=3>MARIVS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">"what shall it profit a man,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">if he shall gain the whole world,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">and lose his own soul ?"</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228) 0% 50%; FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>From:</B> <A title=magnus77840@hotmail.com href="mailto:magnus77840@hotmail.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>doug bell</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B> <A title=ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org href="mailto:ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:00 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>A very good tradition to start would be for the Autocrat of Defender to put together a list of site rules, the event ad, champions list, etc and place it in a hand down file to the next years Defender autocrat. <BR>You might keep it in Rosie when she isn't in use.<BR><BR>Magnus<BR><BR>
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