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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">To everyone that reads this list,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">This was a momentary laps on my part. My
apologies were sent almost immediately to our Seneschal, our Baron and our
Baroness. Now I give my deep apologize to everyone else.
My complaint was worded badly and I missed the point that I was trying to
make. My sincere apologizes for the disturbance. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">I have not been in the Raven's Fort
Brewers Guild for several years now. However, the hard work that these
people do is a major part of what drives this Barony forward. We
don't have many heavy or light fighters, we don't dance, we don't even travel to
other events very much. We do cook and brew, we do have a few strong
artisans and we do have a new college group. All of these
things that this barony excels in are nurtured by the very cluster of
devoted long timers that are panelized most by the arbitrary site
rules. The Brewers Guild is the most active guild in the Barony of
Raven's Fort, hands down. To say that they can not display their talents
at an event that is specifically designed for that reason is beyond
reason. </FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"> It's one thing to
dictate safety rules and land damage control, but it is another thing to set SCA
event policy. Either say no alcohol or say the site is wet.
Deciding who and when alcohol is to be served at an SCA event
is jurisdiction of the SCA. It is still my greatest hope that our
local craftsmen will be allowed to present the fruits of their research at
Defender of the Fort.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Again, please excuse my clumsy
outrage.</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Pax,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Andy size=3>MARIVS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">"what shall it profit a man,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">if he shall gain the whole world,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">and lose his own soul ?"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Andy size=1></FONT> </DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=byzytym@att.net href="mailto:byzytym@att.net">byzytym</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=byzytym@att.net
href="mailto:byzytym@att.net">byzytym</A> ; <A
title=ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org
href="mailto:ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org">ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:37
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Ravensfort] site
rules</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">I would like to make a statement strictly as
an individual and a long time member of the Barony of Raven's Fort.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">I feel that the land agent over stepped
reason when making up his arbitrary rules when it comes to on site
taverns. The rules seem to be directed at specific individuals for
personal reasons, rather than to correct any problems that has arisen in the
past or any breach of SCA or mundane law or any request
that the land owners themselves have made. Of course, we have no
way to know the desires of the land owners since the SCA has never been
allowed to deal directly with the land owners. The imbalance of
the site rule policy is notably demonstrated by the fact that
in the same period of time: the old Raven's Fort Tavern was
forcibly evicted (for fabricated infractions) by the land agent, the
current site rules were issued by the land agent and the on site "Mead
Hall" was built by the land agent. I will not presume to suggest a
solution to this dilemma of secrecy and whim. Perhaps the officers of
the Barony can facilitate a return to a fair site policy
that embraces the true spirit of our society. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">That said, the Autocrat of the Defender of
the Fort event shall enforce what ever is handed up from the site rule
dictator no matter how calculated. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Pax,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Andy size=3>MARIVS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">"what shall it profit a man,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">if he shall gain the whole
world,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">and lose his own soul ?"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Andy size=1></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2></FONT> </DIV></DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=byzytym@att.net href="mailto:byzytym@att.net">byzytym</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=byzytym@att.net
href="mailto:byzytym@att.net">byzytym</A> ; <A title=magnus77840@hotmail.com
href="mailto:magnus77840@hotmail.com">doug bell</A> ; <A
title=ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org
href="mailto:ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org">ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:09
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Ravensfort] site
rules</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">If the rules are not updated this is the
most resent version that we will go with for Defender. There will be
an Autocrat's amendment added.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Pax,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Andy size=3>MARIVS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">"what shall it profit a man,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">if he shall gain the whole
world,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">and lose his own soul ?"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Andy size=1></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>================*****************==================<BR><BR><BR>SITE
RULES FOR THE STONES OF RAVEN'S FORT ON THE DORRELL
RANCH<BR><BR>-----<BR><BR>GENERAL<BR><BR>This is working Ranch and hunting
lease. If you open a gate,<BR>close it behind you. Do not agitate any
livestock. Do not kill or<BR>attempt to kill any wild animals. Do not cut
down any live trees<BR>or their limbs. Do not use nails, bolts, hooks, wire,
etc, in any<BR>tree.<BR><BR>Do not cross fence lines onto any neighbor's
property.<BR><BR>Do not leave small children unattended or sleeping in a
tent<BR>without trustworthy supervision.<BR><BR>All pet mammals must have
current written proof of rabies<BR>vaccination. Leashes please, no pets
shall be allowed to "run<BR>free".<BR><BR>All horses must have current
written proof of negative Coggins<BR>test.<BR><BR>NO FIRE-PITS are allowed.
Fires on the surface, fire-mounds,<BR>fire-rings, and enclosed fireplaces
are allowed. Fire-rings and<BR>enclosed fireplaces must be movable. If there
is a hole or pit in<BR>your camp, fill it in.<BR><BR>Deadfall, fallen
limbs/trees, may be gleaned anywhere on site.<BR>However, the bonfire stack,
the kitchen woodpile, and any<BR>"private" camp woodpiles are private use
only.<BR><BR>All woodpiles must be neatly stacked between two trees or
posts,<BR>on a rack and off the ground. Use bricks, concrete blocks,
or<BR>treated timbers to elevate your woodpile. This helps
discourage<BR>vermin and rot.<BR><BR>Absolutely NO cans, bottles, or other
non-combustibles are to be<BR>put in fires. Do NOT burn plastics or other
objects that produce<BR>toxic smoke.<BR><BR>Excessively large fires in
campsites are not allowed.<BR>"Excessively large" means a stack of firewood
wider than four<BR>feet (4’) and higher than three feet (3’).<BR><BR>A
minimum of four feet (4’) of cleared space is required around<BR>fire area,
unless you have an enclosed fireplace.<BR><BR>All tiki type torches need to
be placed a minimum of three "3<BR>feet beyond their "falling distance" to
the nearest tent.<BR><BR>No unattended candles or other sources of flame in
tents.<BR><BR>A fire extinguisher or equivalent must be in camp and in
plain<BR>sight, if you have a fire. Equivalent means a minimum of a
shovel<BR>and a bucket or container (minimum 5 gallons) of sand or
water.<BR><BR>In *dry weather* FIRES ARE NOT PERMITTED without permission
of<BR>the Land Liaison.<BR><BR>ALL TRASH MUST BE REMOVED AT THE END OF EACH
EVENT. If you hauled<BR>it in...haul it out.<BR><BR>-----<BR><BR>RAVEN'S
FORT COMMONS<BR><BR>"Raven's Fort Commons" consists of, but is not limited
to, the<BR>following locations and the area surrounding them: List
Field,<BR>Kitchen / Storeroom, Merchant / Tavern, Feast, Court,
Baronial<BR>Tents, Bonfire, RF Central, Gatekeeper.<BR><BR>Merchants,
including Tavernkeepers, shall set up their facilities<BR>in the area within
Raven's Fort Commons set aside for that<BR>purpose. Merchant spaces are
"first come - first served" unless<BR>prior arrangements are
made.<BR><BR>Taverns will not serve alcohol. Taverns may serve food
and<BR>non-alcoholic drink only. Operating hours for Taverns are
between<BR>6:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. Merchants and Tavernkeepers camping
in<BR>Raven's Fort Commons shall not host overly large or "come one
-<BR>come all" type revels.<BR><BR>All Taverns must be temporary. There will
no longer be any<BR>permanent "private" Tavern site on the Dorrell Ranch. No
one will<BR>be allowed to set up a "private camp" with the sole or
majority<BR>purpose of having a "private" Tavern.<BR><BR>Large gatherings
may be hosted in the "private" campsites of<BR>individuals or Households.
All gatherings where alcohol is served<BR>shall strictly comply with the
rules of the SCA, Inc. the laws of<BR>the State of Texas, and of the United
States.<BR><BR>Alcohol may *only* be given away by individuals or households
in<BR>the confines of their "private" campsites. Absolutely no money<BR>will
change hands before, during, or after the gathering for the<BR>dispersal of
home brewed alcohol of any kind. There shall be no<BR>sale or
donation-at-the-place-of-serving for the dispensing of<BR>legally purchased
alcohol.<BR><BR>All individuals hosting or serving alcohol at a
gathering<BR>automatically assume all liability for the results of
serving<BR>alcohol. All hosts must check IDs, shall not allow minors
to<BR>drink, and shall be responsible for preventing individuals
from<BR>drinking to excess. Absolutely no "open keg" type situations
will<BR>be tolerated.<BR><BR>No gatherings are allowed in Raven's Fort
Commons or other<BR>"public areas" when large quantities of alcohol are
"being passed<BR>around".<BR><BR>If necessary, the option of licensed
Officers on private duty is<BR>already in place.<BR><BR>The Barony reserves
the right to set up or build a public<BR>gathering place and utilize it for
those purposes that support<BR>and fulfill the needs of the Barony and the
goals of the SCA,<BR>Inc.<BR><BR>-----<BR><BR>ESTABLISHING AND MAINTAINING A
CAMPSITE<BR><BR>To establish a "Private" or "Group / Household" Campsite ask
the<BR>Land Liaison, Lee Cockerham (Kief) to assist you in finding
an<BR>unused space.<BR><BR>Mark the perimeters or corners of your camp with
one of the<BR>following: Treated posts, pipe, large stones, or
other<BR>non-obtrusive object. Paint your livery colors on the
markers.<BR>Markers must be at least 30 inches tall. Use as few markers
as<BR>possible, place them as close to trees as possible,to allow
for<BR>mowing and spraying.<BR><BR>Permanent fences, ground level barriers,
and the use of fresh cut<BR>or untreated wood for "ground contact purposes"
that interfere<BR>with mowing and spraying are not allowed.<BR><BR>All
structures and equipment in camps must be portable.<BR><BR>All chairs,
tables, garbage cans, etc, must be stacked neatly and<BR>secured to prevent
the weather and the cattle from scattering<BR>them about. The preferred
stowage spot is on, or immediately next<BR>to, your woodpile.<BR><BR>All
camps are to be maintained (mowed, raked, and cleared of<BR>dead-fall) a
minimum of once per year. Each individual or group<BR>utilizing a campsite
is responsible for its upkeep.<BR><BR>Each camp must be used or maintained
at least once per year. If<BR>not, then that individual or group may lose
the privilege of<BR>maintaining their private / group Campsite.<BR><BR>Work
days / weekends will be arranged throughout the year.<BR>Contact the Land
Liaison, Seneschal, Event Steward(s), or Baron<BR>and Baroness for dates to
come up and work on the site.<BR><BR>======================<BR><BR>LEE
COCKERHAM - LAND LIASION TO THE DORRELL RANCH - 26 JULY 2005<BR><BR>These
site rules are subject to change without
notice.<BR><BR>==================*******************===============<BR></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=byzytym@att.net href="mailto:byzytym@att.net">byzytym</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=magnus77840@hotmail.com
href="mailto:magnus77840@hotmail.com">doug bell</A> ; <A
title=ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org
href="mailto:ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org">ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 12, 2008 7:27
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Ravensfort] site
rules</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Way ahead of you Magnus.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">I planned to give the historian and the
Seneschal a copy of my event report complete with personal comments.
Perhaps the local Herald should keep a copy of the Champions as
well. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">One of the things that I am going to
request / require from our members running the competitions is a
COMPLETE SCA name and SCA home area of at least the winners. It
may not hurt to get some kind of contact number as well. Phone,
email, street address, any number they think that they might have a
year from now. It would sure make things easier.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Of course I document all of the events
that I Autocrat for my own files. </FONT><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Wanna know how many people came to JellyStone Park
Saint Patrick's Day weekend 1989 for Black, White and Sort of Greenish
Gray ? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">I'm sure that I have a set of rules from
the last time I Autocrated in 2001, but I'm also sure that they have been
customizes since then. A newer version is required.</FONT><FONT
face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Perhaps Baron Brian can get new a copy
for us.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Pax,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Andy size=3>MARIVS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">"what shall it profit a
man,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">if he shall gain the whole
world,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">and lose his own soul ?"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Andy size=1></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=magnus77840@hotmail.com
href="mailto:magnus77840@hotmail.com">doug bell</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org
href="mailto:ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org">ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:00
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Ravensfort] site
rules</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>A very good tradition to start would be for the Autocrat
of Defender to put together a list of site rules, the event ad,
champions list, etc and place it in a hand down file to the next years
Defender autocrat. <BR>You might keep it in Rosie when she isn't
in use.<BR><BR>Magnus<BR><BR>
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