Let me address this as an outsider (someone who does not live in Ravens Fort). Correct me if I am wrong but isn't swine camp the fenced off area at the back of the Stones site? I have been to lots of parties back at the swine camp. I do not see a problem identifying a permanent camping area with the name of the group that camps there IE thunder camp, swine camp, or <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; ">Kiersted camp. I think Grundy was interchanging the term site and camp not meaning the entire site of the stones.</span><div>
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</span><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Sher M <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:runa.herd@earthlink.net">runa.herd@earthlink.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<div><font size="4">What's wrong with Ravens Fort? </font></div>
<div><font size="4"></font> </div>
<div><font size="4">Runa</font></div>
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<div style="background:#e4e4e4;font:10pt arial"><b>From:</b>
<a title="byzytym@att.net" href="mailto:byzytym@att.net" target="_blank">byzytym</a> </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="byzytym@att.net" href="mailto:byzytym@att.net" target="_blank">byzytym</a> ; <a title="sftester2@gmail.com" href="mailto:sftester2@gmail.com" target="_blank">SF Tester</a> ; <a title="ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org" href="mailto:ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org" target="_blank">Raven's Fort Barony of</a> </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:58
PM</div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ravensfort] Swein site
work</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>That didn't really sound the way I meant it. </div>
<div>I have nothing at all against any "Swein". </div>
<div>In fact some of my favorite people in the world are Swein.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I just think that a better name could be given to the new site than a
household name. I do not believe that so many volunteers would have
been willing to work so hard had our present site been called the Kiersted
Site instead of The Stones of Raven's Fort. It just does not have the
same ring to it. Some people are turned off by clandestine ventures that
seem to benefit a single household. It does not need to have any roots
in reality. It is all about perception. Almost any other name
would be better.</div>
<div>The Cut n Shoot site</div>
<div>The Southern site</div>
<div>The Gundy site ( an unusual enough name that it is intriguing )</div>
<div>Hey, I have an idea. Let's move the Stones south and call it The
New Stones site.</div>
<div>Any other suggestions ??</div>
<div>What is the last name of the guys that own the land ??</div>
<div> </div>
<div>The second reason that I don't like the name is because the first thing
that most people thing of when they hear Swein site is a muddy wallow full of
pig poop. Bla ! Not a good way to be thought of.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Again, I love the "Swein" and everything they stand for. Their
contributions are much needed in the SCA of current days. Long may they
live.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Anyway, the advice of someone that has nothing to do with the naming of
the new site is to stay clear of the household names.</div>
<div>
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<div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Pax,</font></div>
<div><font face="Andy" size="3">MARIVS</font></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman">"what shall it profit a man,</font></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman">if he shall gain the whole
world,</font></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman">and lose his own soul ?"</font></div>
<div><font face="Andy" size="1"></font> </div>
<div>P. S. I was joking about moving the Stones. I hope we never
lose our Philps site.</div></div></div>
<div> </div>
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<a title="byzytym@att.net" href="mailto:byzytym@att.net" target="_blank">byzytym</a> </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="sftester2@gmail.com" href="mailto:sftester2@gmail.com" target="_blank">SF Tester</a> ; <a title="ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org" href="mailto:ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org" target="_blank">Raven's Fort Barony of</a>
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<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:28
PM</div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ravensfort] Swein site
work</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Swein site ?????? Bla ! I'd rather call it the Gundy
Site.</div>
<div>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"> </p>
<div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Pax,</font></div>
<div><font face="Andy" size="3">MARIVS</font></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman">"what shall it profit a man,</font></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman">if he shall gain the whole
world,</font></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman">and lose his own soul ?"</font></div>
<div><font face="Andy" size="1"></font> </div></div></div>
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<a title="sftester2@gmail.com" href="mailto:sftester2@gmail.com" target="_blank">SF
Tester</a> </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org" href="mailto:ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org" target="_blank">Raven's Fort Barony of</a>
</div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:13
PM</div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> [Ravensfort] Swein site
work</div>
<div><br></div>Saturday Alaric and Marius went out to the Swein site to do
a little work. I was tied up in Houston with mundane job crap, so I didn't
get out there until after they had left, but the impression I got from
Alaric was that they just got a little stuff done. This was the wrong
impression. Once I got to the site, long after dark, we drove out to the
general camping area (well, it was a good excuse to use 4WD ;) ) to take a
look. Wow. It looks like a different site. Just by headlights and Q-beam
the difference was amazing. I can't wait to see it in the daylight. Thank
you so much for coming out.<br><br>The mosquitos out there are about the
size of turkey buzzards, so we're trying to figure out a good way to set
up a spray tank to hose the place down with skeeter remover. <br><br>I've
discussed it with Mike and we think the best way to handle permenant
campsites will be a bid system. Basically tell us how many people you need
to house, how often you'll use it, what you want to do to it, and when you
can get it done. Semi-permenant structures are a possibility, as well as
permenant fire pits, etc.<br><br>It's an involved story I can't really get
into (and is boring anyway), but I may very well have access to some time
on a CNC plasma cutter in the near future. If so, I'm going to get some
ravens, boars, etc. cut out of 12 ga. steel, weld them to some brackets,
and make some lantern hooks we can throw on trees with a chain (it's an
easy project, just a bit tough to describe). It's still in the possible
list, but if it works out I'll need a good pic of the raven. More on that
later.<br><br>This weekend we have access to a much, much bigger tractor
with a claw and box blade, as well as Mike's smaller tractor and brushhog,
so if anyone can make it out it would be a good time. Email or call me if
you want to come play and I'll give directions if you need
'em.<br>--<br>Gundy<br>
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