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Cease and desist....this thread is over!! the question was a simple one, and i believe it has been answered. If there is anything else to be said on the matter please keep it private. I know that many people do not want to see things going on in a public forum that do not pertain to the subject at hand!<BR><BR>Mirabelis<BR>Co mod of this list....<BR> <BR>next of anything that could be taken in any kind of personal matter will get you moderated!<BR> <BR>
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Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 12:07:28 -0700<BR>From: m_meaux05@yahoo.com<BR>To: sirkief@hotmail.com; ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org; byzytym@att.net<BR>Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] Defender of the Fort question<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><BR>Peace,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Volod NotVlad</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">"When the only tool you have is a hammer,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">every problem looks like a nail."<BR>-----------------------<BR>The above is in my view an insult or jibe and is </FONT><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">very inappropriate. I would ask that this forum not be used in this manner.<BR><BR>Lady Marie de Meaux</FONT></DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 5/22/10, byzytym <I><byzytym@att.net></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: byzytym <byzytym@att.net><BR>Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] Defender of the Fort question<BR>To: "Kief av Kiersted" <sirkief@hotmail.com>, ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org<BR>Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 12:52 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">The system in current use is indeed a good one.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">It is why so many use it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Popularity has never been a reason for trying something new.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Each Baron and Baroness will do as they will.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">I was just sharing an idea put forth to me by Don Robert.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Peace,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Volod NotVlad</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">"When the only tool you have is a hammer,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">every problem looks like a nail."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A title=sirkief@hotmail.com href="http:///mc/compose?to=sirkief@hotmail.com" rel=nofollow>Kief av Kiersted</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org href="http:///mc/compose?to=ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org" rel=nofollow>ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 22, 2010 4:28 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Ravensfort] Defender of the Fort question</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Heilsa all...<BR><BR>A Barony holds annual events... A Baronial Championship *is* a big deal... If I'm not mistaken every Barony in this Kingdom holds some type of yearly Champions event...<BR><BR>Shires don't hold annual Championship events...nor do Cantons, Strongholds, or Colleges... Get the drift here...?<BR><BR>If the Barony wishes to make Raven's Fort's Defender a "really big deal" then put on a **really big deal** event... Simple...yes...?<BR><BR>The event where a new Baron and/or Baroness are elevated is called an Investiture...it is usually held at the Baronial Championship event...and that makes it extra-special...it doesn't happen often...nor should it happen often.<BR><BR>If one wishes to know the current number of the Defender event...well, then...figure out what year number 20 or 25 was...then count forward... Simple...no...?<BR><BR>Our current Baron and Baroness are right Good and Noble people...well Respected by the Royal Family...and Honored by the Crown...after all They do continue to let Their Excellencies Brian and Fionna hold Their lands in fief...<BR><BR>Enough said for now... I'm out in the world again working my buttocks off...go figure... I miss you guys something terrible...hope to be home again soon...<BR><BR>Wæs Þu Hæl in TroÞ and FriÞ...! <BR><BR>"War...! Where Men and Women of Consequence use "tools" to protect the Freedom of all Peoples...even those "persons" that despise them for doing so..." <BR><BR>Sir Kief - Baron Raven's Fort, Pelican, Lion of Ansteorra, Augmentation of Arms<BR><BR>"Better the Hammer than the nail..." <BR><BR><BR><BR>
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From: byzytym@att.net<BR>To: ldjamesnorthfolke@gmail.com; herrdetlef@gmail.com<BR>Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 19:01:34 -0500<BR>CC: ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org<BR>Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] Defender of the Fort question<BR><BR>
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<DIV>Defender every three years would be good.</DIV>
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<DIV>Better still, would be to hold a Championship when a new B&B is invested.</DIV>
<DIV>Then keep the Champion as long as they serve the Barony </DIV>
<DIV>or until a new B&B steps up.</DIV>
<DIV>The frequency would be totally up to the B&B's discretion.</DIV>
<DIV>It would make the actual event a really, really big deal.</DIV>
<DIV>It would also be a break from doing the same old dance year after year.</DIV>
<DIV>Just an idea that I've heard kicked around.</DIV>
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<DIV>Peace,</DIV>
<DIV>Volod NotVlad</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A title=ldjamesnorthfolke@gmail.com href="http:///mc/compose?to=ldjamesnorthfolke@gmail.com" rel=nofollow>James Northfolke</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=herrdetlef@gmail.com href="http:///mc/compose?to=herrdetlef@gmail.com" rel=nofollow>HerrDetlef</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org href="http:///mc/compose?to=ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org" rel=nofollow>ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 16, 2010 5:44 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Ravensfort] Defender of the Fort question</DIV>
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<DIV>Defender I. My first attempt was rained out and we just had morning court. My second attempt was hurricaned out. My third attempt was great. So defender every 3 years. <BR><BR>Sent from my iPad</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On May 16, 2010, at 4:36 PM, HerrDetlef <<A href="http:///mc/compose?to=herrdetlef@gmail.com" rel=nofollow>herrdetlef@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>I can't remember which one was III, but I was at it, so that would be either 1988 or 1989, the year of the first Investiture.</DIV>
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<DIV>It couldn't have been 1990, because I know there was a Defender in 1987 (1990 was IV or V). I didn't go to the one in 1987, but I had been to Kingdom Bardic College in Conroe that summer (Hector and Rowan were still King and Queen).</DIV>
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<DIV>So the question is: Was there a Defender in 1986? If there was, then 1988 was Defender III; if not, 1989 was Defender III.</DIV>
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<DIV>Another clue: Seamus and Karlanna were King and Queen in 1987, while Inman and Drusilla were King and Queen in 1986. Who was on the throne at the first Defender?</DIV>
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<DIV>So...</DIV>
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<DIV>if Defender I was in 1986 (with Inman and Drusilla on the thrones), Defender III was in 1988, Defender XXIII would have been in 2008, and this year would be Defender XXV. If Defender I was in 1987 (with Seamus and Karlanna on the thrones), Defender III would have been in 1989, Defender XXIII would have been in 2009, and this year would be Defender XXIV.</DIV>
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<DIV>Detlef<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxecxgmail_quote>On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 4:16 PM, David Brown <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="http:///mc/compose?to=lddevin03@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow></A><A href="http:///mc/compose?to=lddevin03@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow>lddevin03@yahoo.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>Which Defender will this be?</DIV>
<DIV>I think last year was 21 1/2 since number 21</DIV>
<DIV>was hurricaned out.</DIV>
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