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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Volod NotVlad</font></div>
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">"When the only tool you have
is a
hammer,</font></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">every problem looks like a
nail."<br>-----------------------<br>The above is in my view an insult or jibe and is </font><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">very inappropriate. I would ask that this forum not be used in this manner.<br>
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Lady Marie de Meaux</font></div><br><br>--- On <b>Sat, 5/22/10, byzytym <i><byzytym@att.net></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: byzytym <byzytym@att.net><br>Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] Defender of the Fort question<br>To: "Kief av Kiersted" <sirkief@hotmail.com>, ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org<br>Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 12:52 PM<br><br><div id="yiv1234152851">
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">The system in current
use is indeed a good one.</font></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">It is why so many use it.</font></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Popularity has never been a reason for
trying something new.</font></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Each Baron and Baroness will do as they
will.</font></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">I was just sharing an idea put forth to
me by Don Robert.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Peace,</font></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Volod NotVlad</font></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">"When the only tool you have is a
hammer,</font></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">every problem looks like a
nail."</font></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font> </div>
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<div style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(228, 228, 228); font: 10pt arial;"><b>From:</b>
<a rel="nofollow" title="sirkief@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sirkief@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=sirkief@hotmail.com">Kief av
Kiersted</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org" ymailto="mailto:ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org">ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org</a>
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<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 22, 2010 4:28
AM</div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ravensfort] Defender of the
Fort question</div>
<div><br></div>Heilsa all...<br><br>A Barony holds annual events... A Baronial
Championship *is* a big deal... If I'm not mistaken every Barony in this
Kingdom holds some type of yearly Champions event...<br><br>Shires don't hold
annual Championship events...nor do Cantons, Strongholds, or Colleges... Get
the drift here...?<br><br>If the Barony wishes to make Raven's Fort's Defender
a "really big deal" then put on a **really big deal** event...
Simple...yes...?<br><br>The event where a new Baron and/or Baroness are
elevated is called an Investiture...it is usually held at the Baronial
Championship event...and that makes it extra-special...it doesn't happen
often...nor should it happen often.<br><br>If one wishes to know the current
number of the Defender event...well, then...figure out what year number 20 or
25 was...then count forward... Simple...no...?<br><br>Our current Baron and
Baroness are right Good and Noble people...well Respected by the Royal
Family...and Honored by the Crown...after all They do continue to let Their
Excellencies Brian and Fionna hold Their lands in fief...<br><br>Enough said
for now... I'm out in the world again working my buttocks off...go figure... I
miss you guys something terrible...hope to be home again soon...<br><br>Wæs Þu
Hæl in TroÞ and FriÞ...! <br><br>"War...! Where Men and Women of Consequence
use "tools" to protect the Freedom of all Peoples...even those "persons" that
despise them for doing so..." <br><br>Sir Kief - Baron Raven's Fort,
Pelican, Lion of Ansteorra, Augmentation of Arms<br><br>"Better the Hammer
than the nail..." <br><br><br><br>
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From: byzytym@att.net<br>To: ldjamesnorthfolke@gmail.com;
herrdetlef@gmail.com<br>Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 19:01:34 -0500<br>CC:
ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org<br>Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] Defender of the
Fort question<br><br>
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<div>Defender every three years would be good.</div>
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<div>Better still, would be to hold a Championship when a new B&B is
invested.</div>
<div>Then keep the Champion as long as they serve the Barony </div>
<div>or until a new B&B steps up.</div>
<div>The frequency would be totally up to the B&B's discretion.</div>
<div>It would make the actual event a really, really big deal.</div>
<div>It would also be a break from doing the same old dance year after
year.</div>
<div>Just an idea that I've heard kicked around.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Peace,</div>
<div>Volod NotVlad</div>
<div> </div>
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<div style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(228, 228, 228); font: 10pt arial;"><b>From:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="ldjamesnorthfolke@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:ldjamesnorthfolke@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=ldjamesnorthfolke@gmail.com">James Northfolke</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="herrdetlef@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:herrdetlef@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=herrdetlef@gmail.com">HerrDetlef</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Cc:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org" ymailto="mailto:ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org">ravensfort@lists.ansteorra.org</a>
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<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 16, 2010 5:44
PM</div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ravensfort] Defender of
the Fort question</div>
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<div>Defender I. My first attempt was rained out and we just had
morning court. My second attempt was hurricaned out. My third attempt was
great. So defender every 3 years. <br><br>Sent from my iPad</div>
<div><br>On May 16, 2010, at 4:36 PM, HerrDetlef <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:herrdetlef@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=herrdetlef@gmail.com">herrdetlef@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div>I can't remember which one was III, but I was at it, so that would be
either 1988 or 1989, the year of the first Investiture.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>It couldn't have been 1990, because I know there was a Defender in
1987 (1990 was IV or V). I didn't go to the one in 1987, but I had been to
Kingdom Bardic College in Conroe that summer (Hector and Rowan were still
King and Queen).</div>
<div> </div>
<div>So the question is: Was there a Defender in 1986? If there was, then
1988 was Defender III; if not, 1989 was Defender III.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Another clue: Seamus and Karlanna were King and Queen in 1987, while
Inman and Drusilla were King and Queen in 1986. Who was on the throne at
the first Defender?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>So...</div>
<div> </div>
<div>if Defender I was in 1986 (with Inman and Drusilla on the thrones),
Defender III was in 1988, Defender XXIII would have been in 2008, and this
year would be Defender XXV. If Defender I was in 1987 (with Seamus and
Karlanna on the thrones), Defender III would have been in 1989, Defender
XXIII would have been in 2009, and this year would be Defender XXIV.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Detlef<br><br></div>
<div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 4:16 PM, David Brown
<span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lddevin03@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=lddevin03@yahoo.com"></a><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lddevin03@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=lddevin03@yahoo.com">lddevin03@yahoo.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Which Defender will this be?</div>
<div>I think last year was 21 1/2 since number 21</div>
<div>was hurricaned out.</div>
<div> </div>
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does the LORD require of you <br>but to do justice, and to love kindness,
<br>and to walk humbly with your God?<br>--Micah 6:8<br></div></blockquote>
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