SC - English Cider

Nick Sasso (fra niccolo) grizly at mindspring.com
Wed Jun 18 08:51:06 PDT 1997


At 10:36 PM 6/17/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
>sca-cooks                  Tuesday, 17 June 1997       Volume 01 : Number=
 167
>
>In this issue:
>
>    Re: SC - "First-naming stan
>    Re: SC - Has anyone heard(w
>    SC - Master Ian
>    Re: Re(2)- SC - Caffeine in
>    Re: SC - Feast Themes
>    Re: SC - Has anyone heard(w
>    Re: SC - Feast Themes
>    Re(2): SC - Re: turnips
>    Re(2): SC - Has anyone heard(w
>    Re: Re(2): SC - Re: turnips
>    SC - Re: kohlrabi, was re: turnips
>    Re: SC - Re: kohlrabi, was re: turnips
>    Re: SC - Feast Themes
>    Re: SC - Re: kohlrabi, was re: turnips
>    SC - Unsubscribe swillard at socrates.parkmaitland.org
>    Re: SC - Re: turnips
>    SC - Greetings
>    Re: SC - Feast Themes
>    Re: SC - Feast Themes
>    SC - Stefan's Files for July
>    Re: SC - camping recipes
>    Re: SC - English Cider
>    Re: SC - Feast Themes
>    Re: SC - Re: turnips
>    Re: SC - Feast Themes
>    Re: SC - English Cider
>
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>
>From: "Marisa Herzog" <marisa_herzog at macmail.ucsc.edu>
>Date: 17 Jun 1997 09:23:23 -0700
>Subject: Re: SC - "First-naming stan
>
>                      RE>>SC - "First-naming stangers"=C9           =
 6/17/97
>
>Unless someone is a very dear friend ( and then just to get their goat ;) )=
 I
>try to use titles if I know them.  I think ir reminds people that we are
>supposed to be aiming for virtues that the rest of the world has sort of=
 set
>aside ( courtesy...)=20

Around here it's just about the opposite---more like what I think of as very
early relationships with royalty (where they lived practically in the same
house, so you were familliar enough to use a first name). We've had several
examples lately of royals who "forgot where they came from", and speaking to
them as if they were "the same people they use to be" thaws them out a bit.
Some folks get snooty about that, but my experience has been that being
friendly to the point of first names accomplishes two things:

1. It seperates the "I AM THE KING (LAUREL, BARON, etc.) AND MY WORD IS LAW"
folks from the "hey, cool, look at this neat hat they gave me" folks. I need
to know the difference, having no use for the former, who seldom do a damned
thing, and the latter, who can be found scrubbing crud off the bottom of the
gnarliest pot in the kitchen after the feast, completely unasked.

2. It thaws that "Hat Anxiety" that crops up whenever royalty enters the=
 room.

Don't get me wrong...I think there is plenty of room for formality, and
formality can be fun. BUT, there are folk who forget that this is a big game
of pretend. For instance, recently a visiting "heiress" had quite a tantrum.
It seems that we hadn't served her lunch yet, and it was 10:45. We obliged
by serving her a special lunch, which she recieved while watching us set out
the lunch for the rest of the folks. Then promptly at 1:30 she had another,
louder tantrum, demanding to know where her lunch was. It seems she didn't
have time to eat the first lunch, and now wanted ANOTHER special lunch,
despite the fact that she was within walking distance(perhaps 20 feet) of
the Royalty lunch table, and had brought her own retainers, wasn't from our
kindgdom , and clearly expected us to jump when she snapped her fingers. I
can't and won't respect someone who represents their Kingdom/Principality in
that manner. I can be polite with someone like that, but that's it. Respect
doesn't enter into it. When someone like that is on the throne in our neck
of the woods, we pointedly refrain from royal progress events for 6 months.
We were stuck with this young snippet, because she was "visiting".

So if we're on the informal side in our neck of the woods, I hope no one
who's undeserving takes offense. We've had some really cool people on the
throne. We're lucky that way.

Aoife.


>>                      RE>SC - Feast Themes                         6/17/97
>>
>> I am wondering if anyone has done a feast where the sotelties are  =
 >edible
>>and made to look like games or period toys (for xmas or >12th nite!).
>>
>>There was a beautiful gingerbread castle at a 12th nite a few years back=
 that
>>I am told was quite tasty.  You could make gingerbread and marzipan just=
 about
>>anything.=20
>>
>>
>A few years ago I won a dessert competition with a gingerbread chess board
>with chocolate pieces.  Great fun!
>
>Brighid the Ageless

I have, somewhere, a redacted recipe for a gingerbread that's strong enough
to be structural. It's not my recipe, so I'll have to go ask permission to
post it.

It's been used to make a cathedral complete with stained glass
windows--simply gorgeous. It can be carved and stamped, and will retain
those impressions. You have to warm it to eat it (otherwise you'd break a
tooth), but we never allowed it to get cold when we tested it because the
aroma drove us nuts until it came out of the oven (picture 5 experienced
cooks burning themselves on hot gingerbread!).

Anyhow, I'll ask the author if he'll let me post it.

Aoife



Cheers! Aoife
"Many things we need can wait. The child cannot."
				---Gabriela Mistral, Chilean Poet 1889-1957



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