SC - Plaintive whine about sourcing....

[Mark Schuldenfrei]

     Greetings Dearest Katerine and Adamantius,  
     
     I understood your exasperation with the lack of page numbers etc and 
     did not know if the 'Temple Bar' mention would make a difference with 
     regard to your knowledge of the publishing houses at the time.  It is 
     however evident after your perusal that Brears took some liberties in 
     the reprint.  Just where to draw the line between faithful 
     reproduction and translation is a topic of hot debate.  To give the 
     benefit of a doubt to Brears is certainly not outside of 
     understanding.  The book was obviously geared for the touristy crowd 
     and he most likely felt the need to 'translate' the name of the fish 
     to be used.  It is this knowledge indeed that which I sought when 
     posting the recipe.  I thank you.
     
     Furthermore, the bibliography does contain other Bokes as you 
     mentioned.  They may ring a bell..
     
     Anon, 'A Proper Newe Book of Cokerye', printed by John Kynge & Thomas 
     Marche ( London, probably before 1572) [Corpus Christi College, 
     Cambridge, Archbishop Parker Collection].
     
     A.W.,'A Book of Cookrye Very necessary for all such as delight 
     therein', printed by Edward Allde (London, 1591) [Bodleian Library, 
     Oxford, Douce W.23].
     
     
     All his 'reprints' are probably similarly geared for the uneducated 
     audience.  And lacking specific pages numbers as well.  Sadly, being 
     the cooking simpleton that I am, I may find myself using them from 
     time to time.   Although the recipes listed here on the list also 
     reside in my briefcase for the moment when I reclaim my kitchen from 
     the box castle in my living room.
     
     
     Lillian
     
     
     
     ---> snip
     
     Lady, I wasn't troubled by *your* reference!  It was the vagueness of 
     *his*. Where is it in that collection?  Is that collection known to be 
     related to other existing ones?  Is it the collection itself, or the 
     Pynson edition, that only exists at Longleat?  Etc.  Certainly you 
     can't be expected to provide information that was never made available 
     in the first place!  And the with/without is irrelevant from my 
     personal perspective, and in any case, falls under the "accidents 
     happen" rubric.
     
     I _can_, however, check on the publication date of the Pynson version 
     of NBoC, and find out whether this at least came out in the same 
     year....
     
     Cheers,
     
     -- Katerine/Terry