SC - Byzantine cuisine--sources?

Bonnie Clapshaw bonnie at inetarena.com
Mon Dec 28 18:19:57 PST 1998


Greetings everyone.

I missed the sources that were listed for Byzantine cuisine and would be very
interested in them.  If anyone still has them listed, would it be possible to
e-mail me privately with them?

Thanks bunches

HL Ariadne Melissena
Barony of 3 Mountains, AnTir


L. Herr-Gelatt wrote:

> Adamantius, You have just been hugged!
>
> Thanks for the ref. I'll try to order it thru my friend, the manager of B
> Dalton's (love those employee discounts!) and failing
> that, will get 'em thru ILL (love my flatbed scanner, too, and that
> "educational purpose" stipulation to the copyright laws).
>
> It's a bad
> thing when you get interested in historical cooking *outside* the SCA.
> Modern
> People come to you with questions that make you think up new feasts of
> ancient delights to feed your friends, and then your life becomes research
> hell. I am emphatically obsessed until this one gets cooked and served
> byzantine style. So now naturally I have to have all these sources folks
> have posted (and by the way they are great...thank-you sooooooooo much).
>
> I promise to get back to you all with recipes and basic meal/cuisine info,
> etc. when I have finished. It might be a while. I have a lot on my
> backburner at the moment.
> Hugs all 'round
>
> Aoife
>
> Dame Aoife Finn
> Barony of Endless Hills
> (N.E. Penna, USA)
> Aethelmearc
>
> ----------
> > From: Philip & Susan Troy <troy at asan.com>
> > To: LHG, JRG <liontamr at ptd.net>
> > Subject: Re: SC - Byzantine cuisine--sources?
> > Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 10:35 AM
> >
> > "L. Herr-Gelatt" wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings!
> > >
> > > I am assisting in working on a project (a real-world historic christian
> > > cultures lesson-plan project for adults and teenagers for a local
> Russian
> > > Orthodox Monastary school called St Tikhon's, here in NE PA, USA in a
> > > little town called South Caanan) about the culture of Byzantium, and
> have
> > > been asked to provide some information about Byzantine food,
> culminating
> > > with some sort of recipe or meal information. Any references will be
> > > helpful. I have begun the reference project, but have a long ways to go
> > > yet. Information seems to be rather rare about food in Byzantium thus
> far.
> > >
> > > So the question is this: Does ayone recall sources that mention food or
> > > show pictures of eating, farming, feasting or cooking in Byzantium,
> even if
> > > only briefly? I can get almost anything through ILL, provided I know
> what
> > > to look for. I will shortly be searching at the Library of Congress
> > > web-site. I have already begun with J. J. Norwich's 'A Short History of
> > > Byzantium' (nothing except photos of  a Byzantine Emperor in a fresco
> > > surrounded by flockes of sheep) and a neat book called  'Medieval
> > > Queenship', which has a paper on a Byzantine Queen (called herself
> "Emperor
> > > Irene")  but also no food information except that she distributed food
> and
> > > coins to the public as a way of ensuring her popularity while trying to
> > > influence church policy by actually attending church policy meetings
> > > --unheard of for a woman of the day!
> > >
> > > Byzantium would have been heavily influenced by Spainish and Arabic
> food
> > > culture. Being largely a Christian state located on the frontier of
> Muslim
> > > territory (alcohol and pork allowed), this could result in some rather
> > > unique foodstuffs, so I hesitate to make assumptions based on
> neighboring
> > > cultures. I would love to correspond with anyone who has done some
> research
> > > into this already or has a few ideas about what the food culture may
> have
> > > been like.
> >
> > Ooh! Oooh! I know this one! Amazon is selling a semi-new (1996?)
> > translation of Anthimus' letter to Theodoric of the Franks, translated
> > and edited by Mark Grant. It has recipes. It has tons of medical advice.
> > If need be, and if there's time, but not time to obtain a copy for you,
> > I might be able to get some pages scanned in...
> >
> > Howzzat???
> >
> > More later; am installing shelves with one hand, installing a new CD-ROM
> > burner with another hand, dealing with a sick kid doing a wonderful
> > impersonation of a Mexican jumping bean with a third hand, and doing
> > e-mail with a fourth. I'm supposed to also be cleaning up Ground Zero
> > and cooking for dinner guests tonight, but I only have four hands,
> okay???
> >
> > Happy Holidays!!!
> >
> > A. (the other "A.", the one who's not you ;  )     )
> > --
> > Phil & Susan Troy
> >
> > troy at asan.com
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