SC - coffe and tea at events

Gedney, Jeff Gedney.J at tempphd1.com
Mon Feb 2 13:50:51 PST 1998


Ohayo, Yumitorisan!
> 	Sigh. I am obviously not getting my point across. I had no
> intention of
> advocating Wonder Bread, Ding Dongs, or other non-period substitutions
> for authentic foods. 
I never said that you did advocate same.  I was pointing out that we
were dIdiscussing this like it was an all or nothing proposition, and I
was pointing out that the best option probably lies somewhere in
between. I think that an acceptable level of compromise is possible, and
we should be dicussing where this line should be drawn.

> I was saying that some folk (not me) had previously
> argued for acceptance of non-period items, though not to the extent of
> your example.
> 
And so do I, though not to that extent.  This is my point. There is a
strong tendency to go all or nothing on this issue, and I think that
this is too general and complicated an issue to make broad
generalizations.
>  
> > >  Similarly, it is not necessary to have some replacement beyond
> > > water for period drinks.
> 
> > Except for the very real fact that I can recall no HIGH FEAST (what
> we
> > ostensibly try to re-create) where water was served.
> > Barley wines, Meads, small beers, grape wines (plain, diluted, mixed
> > with juice, spiced, fortified), etc., are noted aplenty, but I do
> not
> > recall even a single instance of plain, unflavored, unscented, WATER
> > being served at table.
> > 
> > Brandu
> 
> 	So. Up to this point the discussion has been about the use of
> coffee
> and tea at events, and the alternative of using period beverages
> instead. Some have argued that they lack the money or time to use
> these
> authentic solutions, to the point of shooting down any suggestion that
> there may be cheaper or less labor intensive ways of providing period
> beverages. I understood your previous post to be on the side of
> supporting non-period solutions since you could not provide period
> ones.
> I responded that I felt it would be better to use authentic beverages
> or
> dishes that you /could/ afford, rather than non-period ones.
True, and I feel that there is always a way to achieve this, like mulled
cider for hot drinks, and lemonade, or other period sugared drink
instead of soda. You were, as I read your post, advocating that the
effort to find a cheap period alternative drink is not needed, because
water existed then, and it exists now. I quote: "it is not necessary to
have some replacement beyond water for period drinks." 

> 	Some folk have argued that they can not afford to provide
> specific
> period drinks due to a lack of time or money. Perhaps they will be
> able
> to supply barley wine, mead, grape wine, etc. etc. and perhaps not. I
> made the suggestion of using water as one /possibility/ of an
> affordable, know-to-be-available solution. Certainly there are others.
Ah, so desu.  I  see what you are saying.

> My point was not to champion any specific answer, but to suggest that
> if
> those solutions provided up until now are not possible due to
> individual
> limitations, then I think it would be better to find /something/ we
> know
> they had, rather than using ingredients or recipes we know they did
> not.
I have no argument there.  I feel that we should applaud a reasonable
attempt, though, and help the resource poor feastocrat get other ideas
that will help next time. 

Brandu

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