SC - Private-auction

Crystal A. Isaac crystal at pdr-is.com
Fri Jan 23 10:27:12 PST 1998


LrdRas wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 1/22/98 7:14:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, crystal at pdr-
> is.com writes:
> 
> << According to the directives recently handed down by the BOD (in response
>  to the SCA insurers having kittins on this subject) boil down to: NO
>  OFFICER OF THE SCA MAY MAKE AVALIBLE ALCOHOL TO ANYBODY.  >>
> 
> This of course is absurd to the max. 
I fully agree.

> I suppose that is I were an  officer and
> I gave my hypothetical wife or my best friend a beer while at an event then I
> would be in violation of BOD rules? 

If you were an officer and while wearing your "officer hat" gave someone
alcohol or provided a keg at a SCA event you would be in the wrong. If
Ras-As-An-Officer spent SCA money on a keg for an event, he would be WAY
wrong. If you, Lord Ras, were sitting around in camp and got a beer out
of the cooler for a visitng buddy, no problem. Further example, as the
Brewer's Guild Chancellor I am not an officer of the Kingdom, I can hand
a beer to any informed and consenting person over the legal drinking
age. As Chronicler for the Barony of the Westermark, I cannot hand the
same person a beer. It's stupid. But that's the was it was explained to
me.

> Federal and state regulations make it
> illegal to provide alcohol to minors period. The simple solution and , of
> course, the one with least sensationalist appeal wold be to restrict those
> items to 21 and over and proof of age before transferral. 

Absoultly. That's what we used to do with auctions in the West, in
addition to having "you must be 21 years of age to bid on this item" on
any written materials.

> When did they
> institute such an unnecessarily restrictive and patently offensive regulation?

Last fall, I don't know the exact date. There was trouble brewing (no
pun intended) in October and I got word from my Kingdom Scheneschal last
November.

> With such shortsighted laws as this being created, it makes one  wonder if
> maybe the membership is not becoming lax with regards to who they recommend
> for inclusion as candidates to the BOD.

Unfortunatly, as here in the West the BOD is a favorite target for all
unrest, it wasn't thier stupidity this time. They were reacting to the
insurance people. The SCA's insurers asked for a sampling of the
newsletters and upon reading them, were horrified by the number of
references to keggers, tavern nights, and other drinking-related
activites. (Another seperate incident involving minors and alcohol
happended at about the sme time.) The insurers wigged out and tried to
demand that all events be "dry" events. The BOD fought back and the
compromise was no officer may make alcohol avalible and no SCA money may
be spent on alcohol or the materials to make alcohol.
 
> Would it be possible to e-mail me the exact wording that the section you cite
> contains? Or provide information where I can look at it myself? 

I got this information from my kingdom scheschal. It was also printed in
the West Kingdom January newsletter, which I do not have a copy (gave it
to a newbie at 12th night, to my regret). I will look for it and pass
the information along as soon as possible.

> I had intended
> my post to be humorous. Little did I realize that I would stumble across such
> horrifying news.

It was funny. If I hadn't just be through the ringer on the West Kingdom
Brewers' Guild auction, I'd have been giggeling at my desk. Lemonade,
really :) 
 
> I certainly  was not offended by your post and did not take it as a personal
> attack. Thank-you in advance for your responce.

Thank you for the reassurance. I didn't mean to be offensive. It's just
the empty bottle theory and saying things are non-alcoholic when they
are is partly what got us into this trouble to begin with.

thanks,
Crystal
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