SC - Horible rules-OT-OOP

[wanda]

Decker, Terry D. wrote:
> 
> >   In defense of the Baron and Baroness though.  They are only reletively
> > new to the thing, and live very far away from the rest of the Barony, so
> > most of the running is left to the Senechal who they trust implicitly.
> >    Our Seneschal and his wife are too full of their own worth (They ran
> > for
> > Baron and Baroness and didn't make it.)  So they pretty much run things
> > how
> > they want it.  The seneschal had the idea to raise the fees, saying that
> > the extra $10 odd on top of the standars non-member fees making an avarage
> > feast cost $28 or so dollars would encourage more people to join the SCA.
> > This was designed to boost membership.  It lost the College of St Guildas
> > a
> > lot of members since it was too expensive for just one event.
> >
> >From the sound of this, your Kingdom already has non-member fees in place to
> encourage paid membership.  By adding additional fees, your Seneschal may
> have stepped on Kingdom law.  You need to carefully read the applicable
> sections.
> 
> In any case, the Seneschal appears to have place an onerous burden of
> questionable worth on the participants in the College.
> 
> >   To give you an idea of his wife, well, she and two other girls were the
> > baronesses ladies in waiting for the last year.    During this year she
> > has
> > allowed the other two girls no chanceto actually wait on the Baroness.  It
> > was a fight just getting her away from the casket in which the awards are
> > kept.  Everyone is convinced that its the power that goes with it.
> >
> This doesn't mean a thing in terms of what you are trying to do.  While the
> stated behavior is discourteous and disgusting, it is not unlawful or
> actionable.  Only the actions of the office should be considered.
> 
> I would recommend you keep the behavior in mind when next being polled for
> selecting a new Baronage.
> 
> >    The populace have asked the Baron and Baroness if we can replace them,
> > but the Baron and Baroness who don't mingle much in their own Barony,
> > doesn't see any problem.  The populace it between a rock and a hard place.
> > Me.......I stick to the kitchen, the roasts aren't powermad, and neither
> > am
> > I
> >
> > **************************************************************************
> > ****
> > Marina Denton
> > sianan at geocities.com
> >
> If you feel the Seneschal is misusing his office, you may petition his
> superior to replace him.  You will need to state specific cause.  I would
> recommend that you get the majority of the populace to sign the petition.
> You need to request that action be taken within a specific time (usually 30
> to 45 days or as established in the Complaint and Appeals section of Kingdom
> Law).  You need to send a copy of the petition to the Seneschal and to the
> Baronage.  You may have some problems here, because the Baronage may take a
> formal petition as a vote of no confidence.
> 
> If his superior chooses not act, you appeal the decision to the next level
> in the Seneschallate and repeat the petition process until you reach the
> Kingdom Seneschal.  If the Kingdom Seneschal fails to act, you may next
> petition the Crown.  Failing that, you may next petition the Society
> Seneschal and after that the BoD.
> 
> >From what has been said, members of the populace haven't gotten anywhere
> talking to the Seneschal or the Baronage, so maybe you can get their
> attention with a formal petition.  Hopefully the Seneschallate in your
> Kingdom is smart enough to straighten out the problem early on; the formal
> process can be a pain.
> 
> The populace as a whole can force the issue informally by simple refusing to
> work with the Seneschal and notifying the Baronage of the fact.  This will
> not work if the offending party has enough adherents to run the Baronial
> events.
> 
> For your next Seneschal, try to find someone who believes the duty of the
> office includes assuring that the letter of complaint which will remove them
> from office is correct and proper within Kingdom Law and the Organizational
> Handbook.
> 
> Bear
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You know,  I haven't seen a single suggestion that the populace, who are
the ones supposedly suffering from the Senechal's actions stop whining
whining and _talk_ to him.  Not talk as in "oh, please sir", but in
council (you do have a Baronial Council, don't you?  If not, why not? 
Too lazy to go to a meeting that's not "fun"?), get all those people you
might get to sign a petition behind the Seneschal's back together and
confront him.  Work out rules that the Barony can live with _together_.
Start solving your problems at the level they started at rather than
whining for mommy and daddy (Baron and Baroness), Regional or Kingdom to
do your work for you.  Most of your group is made up of adults, now get
in there and do some problem solving on your own rather than expecting
others to make your game go smoothly for you!

Regina
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