SC - Judging-OT

[geneviamoas at juno.com]

On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:32:38 EDT LrdRas at aol.com writes:
>In a message dated 6/17/98 1:24:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>geneviamoas at juno.com writes:
>
>Depends on what you mean by "knowledgeable".  I know at least one 
>person who
>has a high order of merit in the field of cooking when, in fact, their 
>over
>all knowledge in that field is cursory at best.  So using the criteria 
>of
>"Laurel" or "Sycamore" or title/award as an indication of knowledge in 
>a
>person's field is somewhat shaky at best.
>>>>>> True but I am looking for a place to start! remember. Then I
figure a little judicious questioning, probing, watching should help
narrow the field considerably. If I know more about the subject then they
do I don't need them. As I start watching the ones I know about if they
are any good I should also be seeing and meeting the up and comers so
have more potential fodder. True?

 I was asked because I had an "award" in the 
>areas
>they needed a judge for.
 (I'm still trying to figure out the armor request
>which I suppose could be costuming by a big stretch of the 
>imagination. :-)).<<<<<<Or sheer desperation>>>>>>
>>>>
>I did the best job I could relying on gut instinct, cursory knowledge 
>and the
>WRITTEN guidelines provided to me by the person in charge of the 
>competition.
>I will never do it again unless the request is for judgment in 
>cookery
.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>Agreed unless, like in one of the responses I have gotten the person
outside the field of "expertice" Judged on the basis of what was common
to both fields - presentation and finishing touches to a piece. Or say
Documentation, or period accuracy in details of a piece... Is there any
rule that each judge must judge on all aspects of an entry? Would this
work?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You and Bear give Good usuable well thought out answers>
This has been saved for further study. Thank you Genevia

>>>>>>>A good idea would be to keep your eyes and ears open and write
down 
>the names
>of potential "experts" in their fields then draw on those when seeking 
>judges
>regardless of the scrolls, tin hats, or other accolades they may 
>possess.
>Believe me the criteria used for "official" recognition of a persons 
>skills is
>one of the most subjective processes the SCA has and receiving one is 
>no
>assurance that an "expert" has been recognized although this is not
>necessarily true for all or even a majority of such august persons.
>
>There are many fine Laurels who are expert in their fields, people 
>like
>Mistress Alys Katherine, Master Adamantius, Mistress Alicia, etc.  
>These are a
>few I personally know but the list could go on and on.  If you feel 
>that using
>a Laurel as a judge lends some sort of "legitimacy" to your 
>competition find
>out what their expertise is and set them to judging those particular 
>entries
>while filling in with other knowledgeable people to cover other areas. 
> It is
>patently unfair to expect a costuming Laurel to be an adequate judge 
>of
>cookery and vice versa so those situations should not be allowed to 
>happen,
>thus sparing embarrassment for all parties.
>
>Good luck. ;-)
>
>Ras
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