SC - Dutch ovens

[Ron Brooks]

Greetings,

It is my understanding  that the expression  "Pennsylvania Dutch" was
never intended 
as derogatory. It cme from the early "Hooked on Phonics" days of the
settling of 
America. The Pennsylvania came of course from the state, but the Dutch
was a corruption of Deutch<sp?>, which is of course, German for German.
So Deutch 
to Dutch isn't much of a leap.

Bjorn Lochlannac
Barony of Bonwicke
Western Region
Kingdom of Ansteorra

Lord Ras said:
>Having a Pennsylvania Dutch background  and ancestry I clearly 
>understand the
>need for some to make "nice" with terms that they feel are slightly
>denegrating. However, the facts are that even the PA Dutch use the 
>word in
>such a manner. 
>
>To go "Dutch": pay your way.
>Dutchman ; affectionately insane; miserly
>to speak "Dutch"; to speak nonsense; unintelligeble speach
>"Dutch" : something that appears to be something other than what it 
>is; silly;
>daffy
>
>So, IMO, "Dutch" oven makers most likely are not stretching things 
>when they
>describe the name for the cauldrons they make as "false". The modern 
>world,
>indeed, the very recent world may find the use of racial and language 
>slurs
>"politicly incorrect" but those who have come before did not have this
>perception of things. Agreed that the non-German neighbors may have 
>given the
>name to the pots, the name they gave them was derogatory
>since those same neighbors were also aware that these people were 
>Germans and
>not Holland natives.
>
>The point being we should be careful when we make opinions on 
>historical
>matter NOT to be too quick with using modern thought processes and 
>social
>values when formulating those opinions.
>
>Ras

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