SC - re: SC-private-Catilin-gasp

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YAHOO!! YOU GO GIRL OR ER MY LADY!!!




Kathleen M Hogan wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:28:56 -0700  "Stapleton, Jeanne"
> <jstaplet at mail.law.du.edu> writes:
> >
> >       Nobody's going to stop you from being an Irish peasant if
> >that's that you really want.  But please be polite in return and
> >don't correct them if they call you "my lady".
>
> >       And one general comment:  it's fine to enthusiastically
> >support and research your own avenue of special interest--such as a
> >poor clanswoman or a landsknecht mercenary or any such thing.  But
> >there's no call for value judgments on the way someone else
> >has chosen to play,
>
> I don't have anything agains t those folk who choose to be nobility from
> the outset.  My complaint is that I really don't appreciate someone who
> looks down upon me/my personna because I am NOT wealthy.  Frankly, I
> don't have a lot of money mundanely, and can't afford a lot for fancy
> garb. Yet I have had "nobles" openly criticize me for "not dressing for
> feast".  I have been sneered at openly at events because my garb (while
> carefully researched and hand sewn from period materials) is not silk,
> brocade, etc...or what is considered acceptable for a "noble lady" to
> wear.
>
> The specific incident of sneering that I mentioned occured at a rather
> large event in North Carolina a few years ago.  His Majesty was attending
> and I was invited to perform during feast.  One of the "ladies" at high
> table said "It's a shame that SOME people can't even BOOTHER to dress
> decently for feast."  (the stresses were hers).  She said this very
> loudly DURING my performance.  And the worst part is that all but one of
> the people at high table (including His Majesty) laughed with her.  The
> autocrat (who had invited me to perform)  apologized to me afterwards and
> was quite embarassed by it all.  Again, not even a majority of the
> populace behaves in this kind of manner, but there are all too many.
>
> >       I am nobility by choice, I'm titled, and my lady, I take
> >exception to your painting everyone who chooses to play that way as
> >backstabbers or interested only in titles or fripperies.  I didn't
> >start out looking for these things, they just happened.
>
> I don't....I just see an awful lot of it.  As I stated in my last
> paragraphs...I have been on the receiving end of it repeatedly.  I have
> seen shires fall apart because of it and longtime members quit because
> they were tired of it.  I don't even claim that the majority of Scadians
> are like that, but unfortunately, they seem to be ruining it for the rest
> of us.  I try to avoid it, but when you are deliberately excluded from
> activities that are planned by the shire or have people making snide
> comments aloud about you/your personna at events...it's kind of hard.  I
> have repeatedly volunteered to hold office in my shire, but because I am
> not part of a certain person's little group....I have been refused.  Our
> new seneshal is trying to cut down on the cliquism, but it's been hard.
>
> My dream of the SCA....where people are accepted on their merits, not
> their bank books.  Where people are recognized for who they are, not who
> they know.   Where people can enjoy  their research and have their fun
> too.
>
> Catilin NicFhionghuin
> House Oak & Thistle
> Shire of BorderVale Keep, Atlantia
> Augusta, GA
>
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