SC - Fw: [Mid] Crown feedback/coffee

[Decker, Terry D.]

Rather than chase after all the primary references, let me recommend Ukers
"All About Coffee" and Ralph Hattox "Coffee and Coffeehouses, The Origins of
a Social Beverage in the Medieval Near East."  These are the two most
scholarly works on coffee available.  Ukers may be difficult to locate as
the various editions date from the 1920s and 30s.  Hattox was published in
1985 in a University of Washington paperback, ISBN 0-295-96231-3.  These
will also provide you with an extensive list of primary sources.

Almost every other source accepted the apocryphal as history and introduced
gross errors in historical dates.

As a beverage, coffee does not appear earlier than the late 13th Century and
then only in the context of Sufi ritual.  General use begins in the mid 15th
Century.  By the mid-16th Century, coffeehouses are common in al-Islam.
Provable European use in period is limited to the late 16th Century Northern
Italy.

Coffee was not percolated.  It was mixed with other ingredients and boiled
several times.  The method is still used.

Bear



> Here's some information on coffee, if anyone is interested.
> 
> Phlip
> Caer Frig
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> : From: Baden,Doug <baden at oclc.org>
> : To: 'sca-middle at dnaco.net'
> : Subject: RE: [Mid] Crown feedback/coffee
> : Date: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 4:41 PM
> : 
> : Coffee:
> : 
> : The earliest reference I can find to coffee is the Bransten coffee and
> tea
> : collection from 1600.  It is a collection of printed works on the
> subjects
> : gathered around 1600, so these would be earlier works.
> : 
> : There is a reference to coffee in "Carta qve escrivio vn Medico
> Christiano,
> : que estava curando en Antiberi, à vn Cardenal de Roma, sobre la bebida
> del
> : cahuè, ô cafè.", contains a description of the coffee plant by the
> European
> : writer Prosper Alpini, in his De medicina Aegyptiorum, Venice, 1591. 
> Sigh,
> : the only copy of Alpini  in the US is in the Library of Congress.  A
> road
> : trip would be needed....
> : 
> : Unless somebody out there happens to have a copy :)????
> : 
> : Baroness Tamara was just talking with me about beer for TOC, and she has
> : found documentation from the early 1500's (around 1520) decrying the
> evils
> : of that horrible aphrodisiac!  Since I have found many of the same in my
> : search for period chocolate drinks, I can concur.
> : 
> : There is also Antaki, Da'ud ibn 'Umar (d.1599), "The nature of the drink
> : kauhi, or coffe, and the berry of which it is made" from the Tomason
> : Collection (University Microfilms, 1964. (Early English books, 1641-1700
> : ;140:2)).  In English and Arabic.  
> : 
> : Coffee is period, and until I prove otherwise, was made the same way it
> is
> : made today.  Roasted, ground and percolated.  Mind that it would not
> have
> : been drunk outside a select group at first.  Expensive and rare....
> : 
> : Oh, and the moral issues of this were fiercely debated, as usual :).
> : 
> : Arundel
> : 
> : Doug Baden    My opinions are my own. 
> : When I see "And it is obvious that" I know that
> : I have many hours of work to see the obvious...
> : 
> : > -----Original Message-----
> : > From:	Becky Needham [SMTP:betony at infinet.com]
> : > 
> : > I have it on good authority that Her Majesty likes coffee and I guess
> : > His Majesty didn't want to take any chances. ;->>>>
> : > 
> : > Bet
> : > 
> : From:  "Baden,Doug" <baden at oclc.org>
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