SC - Query-OT-OOP

[James Gilly / Alasdair mac Iain]

Osburn-Day, Katherine wrote:
> 
>         But if they had always heard and said the Ave Maria in Latin,
> wouldn't it be as familiar for them as it is in English for American
> Catholics?  They probably had the Ave Maria and Pater Noster committed to
> memory from childhood on.  And, as I understand church history, everything
> was in Latin until Martin Luther.  It stands to reason then, that they would
> have said it even more often than we do and probably just as fast.
> 
>         Caterina

That's possible. It's also possible that as the people we're talking about
aren't normally Latin speakers, they might have spoken it slowly and clearly,
especially since the Church might have taken a somewhat substantially dimmer
view on prayers being slurred. One could argue either way.

As for everything being in Latin, the Ave Maria was generally spoken in Latin
until 1964. It is not part of the standard Mass, and even if it was, it would
then have been sung by priests, and not necessarily spoken by the
congregation. As far as I know, Lutherans don't say the Ave Maria in Latin or
English on a regular basis. I could be wrong about this, though.

As regards the possibility of a separate Ave Maria ritual (as mentioned by
Lord Ras) in the Catholic belief system, I can't think of one offhand, unless
perhaps it is used for various vigils...I'll look into this.  

Adamantius 

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