SC - rosaries info

[Stefan li Rous]

Caterina de' Verdeschi said:

>All the dates that
>I found indicated that the rosary (which is the "long version" we are
>discussing, I think) did not come into common usage until late in period.  I
>can look up my notes if anyone is interested in the actual date that is
>accepted by the Church. 

I think the rosary prayer that you mention may indeed be late in period. There
is a referance in my file that the rosary beads were not officially accepted
until 1527. And the word "rosary" is also apparently late. However, the beads 
are older and apparently have their roots in the 11th and 12th centuries although
they changed in form over the years.

I have attached a message written by Nicolaa who has done a bit of research on
rosaries. You can find this message and others about rosaries as well as
several recipes for making rosary beads out of roses in this file in the
RELIGION section of my Florilegium:

rosaries-msg      (54K)  8/ 6/97    Period rosaries and their use. Making rose 
                                       beads.

My files are at: http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/rialto/rialto.html

Stefan li Rous
Ansteorra
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From: sclark at chass.utoronto.ca (Susan Carroll-Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: rosary/worry
Date: 11 Jul 1996 11:33:10 -0400
Organization: University of Toronto -- EPAS

Greetings!

Muslims do have "prayer beads" as well, although I do not know how
they work, exactly.  There is some thought that the rise in appearance of
paternoster beads in the 11th and 12th century may owe something to Crusaders
and monastic and pilgrim visitors to the Holy Land noticing the
practice and adapting it to Christian practice.  Paternoster beads are one
of the ancestors of the rosary;  a devotion known as the "poor man's breviary"
in which 150 Pater Nosters were said in place of the 150 psalms
(because the "poor man"--in the sense of "uneducated"--did not know
his psalter as a monk or priest would) and the beads were used to keep count.

Cheers!
Nicolaa de Bracton
sclark at chass.utoronto.ca
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