SC - re: digest 1530

[grasse at mscd.edu]

Greetings Thomas, Nana, Ras, and all the remaining Cooks-listers;

In regards to the below referenced recipe:

I am assuming it is in 1300's Dutch?  Because with my German I can actually 
get about 3/4 of it (and I am sooooo thrilled!!!) (Thanks for all the 
practice with Rumpolt T.G.!)

As for what is easier, translating or redacting... I think they are about 
equal, what is hard it trying to learn what they really meant  - like 
'Speck' nowadays is what I would interpret as streaky bacon... is it what 
was meant by that term in 1300's???

I can translitterate a fair piece, and can translate it into English 
(though am still working out the bugs in that) and I can redact a tasty 
dish... 
(to see the Rumpolt pages at:  http://clem.mscd.edu/~grasse/Welcome.html
Click to get to the table of contents, then have fun exploring)

But how close to what they had am I really?

I will be webbing  an additional  beef dish by next week (it came out kinda 
Sauerbraten/Szechuan, but very tasty) and I have a beef tounge in the 
freezer that I will experiement with soon... 
I started transcribing the pork section last night, so I plan to play with 
some prok stuff soon (only I can't seem to buy pork-innards (liver, stomach,
 nothing, even the specialty butchers can't seem to get me any... Ostrich - 
no problem, but pork-guts No can do :-(  so I have to stick with the meat 
recipes for now.

Gwen Cat
Caerthe (who also won't be going to war, but will have to battle the weeds 
in the garden if she wants to have any Kohlrabi this wet, cold summer)
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Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 00:10:21 +0200
From: Thomas Gloning <Thomas.Gloning at germanistik.uni-giessen.de>
Subject: SC - Harpestraeng

Thank you, Nanna!

It is a great day to _see_ the original text of a recipe around 1300!

The parallel recipe in the manuscript W, according to Wiswe's edition
(1956) goes like this:

"66. Item me schal over eyn hon mydden entweysniden unde maken van
mele unde van water twe vladen unde sniden darin speck unde do:en dartho
gantze salvienblade unde peper. Salte thomathe. Unde bewerke dat in den
vladen. Unde late id backen like eyne brade. Dyt [dy_Hs.] sind
posteidenhoner."

The ending "Dyt sind posteidenhoner" ('these are chicken in a pie')
corresponds in a loose way to the latin heading "Quomodo condiantur
pulli in pastillis" ('The way chicken can be deliciously prepared in
_pastillis_ (pies, little breads)'; the Icelandic and the corrected
Danish version headings, Nanna posted, differ in the number: "condiatur
pullus in pastello" is singular, while "condiantur pulli in pastellis"
is plural).

See also Wiswe's "Nachlese", p. 111, s.v. "vlade".

More later,
Thomas

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