SC - redacting

[Peldyn@aol.com]

In a reply to a message dated 12/14/99

<<  I thought that the native American Indians
never progressed beyond the STONE age. >>

Ras writes on 14 Dec 1999 08:06:46 EST
Subject: Re: SC - Cranberries and Lingonberry Jamup (long)

>I would suggest an extensive study of American Indian cultures and you may
be
>surprised when you have to  rethink the above statement. Indian cultures on
>the East and West coasts were very advanced lived in towns with buildings,
>practiced advanced agricultural techniques, had highly developed languages
>and sophisticated systems of law and government, many of which were far
more
>advanced than their European counterparts. The technology may have been
more
>advanced in Europe but that is about the it of European advancement when
>compared to Native Americans.

You are teaching Granny to suck eggs Ras.  My grandfather was a 7/8 full
blood
Cherokee, though not raised as part of the Nation. With a odd relative on my
fathers
side, I count myself 1/4 native American.   My great-great grandparents hid
out in a
cave in southern Kentucky to escape the Long March of the Trail of Tears. I
am well
aware of the social and cultural skills of my immediate familial ancestors.
We have
a large burial site that remains in family hands.  Among other things, I
have been on
archaological digs studying the "snail people" (arcahic woodland period
circa 4500
B.C.) here in middle Tennessee and have designed a cultural center and
museum
for some of the Alabama Uchee relics to have been built in Seale, Alabama.
Likewise,
I am also aware of some of the atrocities practiced by the peoples of my
other 3/4's
heritage against native Americans.  Unlike some other persons whose
ancestors were
reprehensively treated by European colonists a couple of centuries ago, I
have gotten
over it.  I doubt I need to rethink my statement; rather I will let it
stand.

I am also conversant with the many other methods of cooking without metal
utensils
which another person on the list mentioned.  However, many if not most, were
utilized by tribes far from the Plymouth Colony.   I mentioned the two most
distinctive
cooking methods chiefly used by the Iroiquois peoples, being the Cayuga,
Oneida,
Mohawk, Onondaga and Senneca tribes.   I specifically refer to "Stone Age"
(as was
kindly pointed out in a further sending) to point out that other than with
gold, no native
Amerinds developed metalurgical skills as a technological achievement.  Yes,
Trade
Goods accounted for the natives boiling in pots, but no 50 gallon sized
cauldrons as
was depicted in the illustrations to which I was refferring were included
normally in that
classification of goods in New England at that time.  Yes I did misstate the
fact that John
Smith was at Jamestown.  I know it, I knew it and I blew it,  mia culpa.

However, rather than a discourse on native American cultures and my
propensities to
having an occasional Senior Moment on history, I would really appreciate
some
comment on my ramblings concerning the Vaccinium family.  Do I have a
reasonable
thesis or not?

Akim
"No glory comes without pain"


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