SC - Christmas Dinner and Gifts

[Lurking Girl]

Varju at aol.com wrote:
> 
> This is very likely, since several groups of Germans have settled in Hungary.
>  The first group, called the Saxons, arrived in the 12th and 13th centuries
> and live mostly in Transylvania in what is today Romania.  The other group,
> the Swabians, arrived in the 18th century, much after the time we are looking
> at.

I can vouch for this information as a descendant of the latter group.
They remained ethnically German, built towns with German-sounding names,
lived in the towns, and went out every morning to till the fields that
surrounded the town. At the time it was a typically German way of
farming, and ethnic Hungarians thought it rather odd. As is often the
case, I believe the idea was that it never occurred to the Germans that
they should try to adapt to the prevailing culture, because it was
obvious they would be going home soon anyway, as soon as the famine was
over. Some hundred-plus years later, my ethnically German, Hungarian
grandmother immigrated to the USA. So much for going home.  By the way,
another large group of Germans displaced by this same famine were
thousands of unemployed Hessian men, who also came to America as
mercenaries under the flag of the British Army.  
 
> << And, if he was actually Hungarian, were the Hungarians using then [as they
> do now] the family name first and then the given name?  If so, then wouldn't
> the author's name then be Rumpolt Marx, as we use names? >>
> 
> Yes, Hungarian name order was the same then as it is today with the family
> name first and given name second.  This would only hold true however for an
> ethnic Hungarian.  Since Rumpolt appears to be a German, his name would be in
> the usual order for German names.

Doesn't this assume that we know which is the family name and which is
the given or personal name? It may be that his father's name was Marx
Siegfried, and his grandfather Marx Hermann, etc. Of course it's pretty
telling that the man wrote in German, so maybe the family name _is_
Rumpolt. 
> 
> Noemi
> who has gone through much of her SCA career being called by the wrong part of
> her name. . .

Tell me about it ;  ) 

Gide...I mean Adamantius
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Phil & Susan Troy

troy at asan.com
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