SC - Re: Limes

[grasse at mscd.edu]

Honorable Lord Ras,
I based the interpretation on my familiarity with German, as a native 
speaker (born and raised in Berlin) and experienced cook.

Zitrone (in modern German) is Lemon 
Limone or (more recently) Limette (in modern German)  is Lime 

Botanically I would disagree that limes are green skinned lemons. 

I quote an exerpt from
http://metalab.unc.edu/herbmed/database.html

"Citrus","aurantiifolia","Lime"
"Citrus","aurantium","Bitterorange"
"Citrus","aurantium","Pomeranz"
"Citrus","bergamia","Bergamottenbaum"
"Citrus","limon","Zitrone"
"Citrus","medica var. vulgaris","Zitronatzitrone"

Based on spoken language I don't think I would equate limone with Zitrone 
(lemon in Engl.) although the botanical name would support that view. I can 
see where he may have meant citron as citron, although citron (the fruit) 
is knows as Zitronat-Zitrone in modern German (and I have never seen it 
sold fresh, but only made into zitronat or candied citron as is used in 
baking.) 

I  used the sound-it-out-to-get-the-word method to interpret it as 
originally posted.  I will return to Rumpolt to see where else he may use 
the two words, but somehow doubt that will clarify anything since the 
citrus juice and peels under discussion could be used interchangeably 
(though with differing results) without color pictures I am not sure I 
could differentiate.

Question: if limes are merely green skinned lemons (as you stated)
"Botanically, limes are merely green skinned lemons. Their source of entry 
to
the West was, like yellow lemons, supposedly through Persia which makes 
sense
considering the point of origin for lemons in general is widely excepted as
being located in India."

...and you are willing to accept candied lemon peel, what is the 
disagreement about???

On a side note Rumpolt also lists pomeranz shel uberzogen - based on the 
information I found on the web (and sited above) he means coated bitter 
orange peel.  Now to locate some bitter orange (seville?) to experiement 
with.

(another  web site on citrus names is at

http://zygote.agfor.unimelb.edu.au:8008/Porcher/Plantnames/Sorting/Citrus_1.
html   )

Gwen-Cat
Caerthe
(Who probably should have kept on lurking and not upset the "can", but is 
not willing to discount 30+ years of German.)

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