SC - Chocolate and Period

[ana l. valdes]

Thank you for your very clarifying and well argumented answer, lord Ras.
I agree with you in the wish of of a more "open" or wide definition of
"period". I am, as the most of you are, the result of "mixed ancestors",
relocated to Outremer or the "Colonies". I think it should be a great
scientific and fun challenge to examine all these "crossing food", all
these "hybrids". I think it should be a richer environement to work
with.
Ana, on my way to a party to a friend who is 40 years today. He is the
greatgreatchild of one of the most known romantic writers in Sweden,
contemporary to Goethe. His ancestor was so boring Goethe wrote in his
Diary "Its raining today, and if its not enough sad and boring, Atterbom
is coming to visit".

LrdRas at aol.com skrev:
> 
> In a message dated 11/15/99 7:21:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> agora at algonet.se writes:
> 
> << I mean, corn, tomatoes, chocolate, were not
>  "period" for Europe, but were nowadays period for South America. I think
>  all discussion about food uses and borders and transgressions should be
>  analyzed from several points of view, not only a eurocentric way. >>
> 
> Although I agree with you in principle, the SCA generally does not encourage
> personas which live in the 'colonies'. You will see some wonderful personas
> and research into areas like Japan and an occasional foray into Aztec culture
> (e.g., there is an Aztec knight) but these are rare.
> 
> Middle eastern personas are also tolerated, if not encouraged. Many middle
> eastern personas go so far as to rationalize their existence by concentrating
> on Andalusia or even the Kingdom of Israel. Many do not. The stance of the
> organization in general has been one of tolerance for any persona that is
> from a 'western culture' or the peoples they came in contact with. Thus
> middle eastern and Japanese are most often seen. Mongol, Russian, and eastern
> European personas are also occasionally pursued.
> 
> The inclusion of colonial, colonial, Inca and Aztec personas would open a
> wide and rich area of research and recreational art. A few years ago I
> entered a beautiful recreation of a piece of Aztec needle art in a
> competition but none of the judges took any time to read the documentation
> and the only comment written down was that they had failed to see the
> significance of this piece in such a competition. Apparently they were not
> aware that such things were frequently sent to Spain which I had clearly
> indicated in the accompanying text.
> 
> Since Spanish land in North and South America was clearly thought of as part
> of Spain at the time, the question revolves around whether 'western culture'
> should be interpreted as geographical or political entities. There are solid
> arguments on both sides and the issue remains unresolved today.
> 
> As a past A&S minister, I always encouraged folks to do whatever they wanted
> to do in the SCA. As one of the players, I would like nothing more than to
> see development of more Native American, Inca and Aztec personas, as well as
> any other nationality that had regular sustained contact with Europe, not
> only tolerated but actively encouraged where those peoples had daily
> interaction with colonials.  It is often said that such personas living in
> Paris, for example, would have adopted Parisian dress and manners. Possibly
> but, OTOH, there is clear evidence that such adaptation was slow in the
> colonies or trade settlements where Europeans as oftentimes as not adopted
> local custom. Others may have an entirely different, and no less valid,
> viewpoint.
> 
> My .02.
> 
> Ras
> 
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