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[Korrin S DaArdain]

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At 5:28 PM -0700 10/27/99, Catherine Keegan wrote:

>For Apples, all of the grocery-store varieties are modern.

Depends on the grocery store. It used to be the case that stores 
around Pennsic cometimes carried Summer Rambo (Rambeau d'ete), which 
is a period or perhaps early 17th c. variety. And lady apples, which 
are supposed to be period, occasionally show up in grocery stores.





>The variety
>"Court Pendu Plat" (or "Corps Pendu")  is supposed to date from at least
>the 1590's and may actually be derived from the old Roman variety called
>Sementinum... according to one of the catalogs.  I think at least one
>reference claimed that "White Winter Pearmain" was originally a 13th
>century variety.   And Frank Browning mentions in his book "Apples,"  that
>the rootstock variety now know as "M9" is actually derived from the
>"Paradise" apple that was popular from the 13th century; it was supposed to
>be a small yellow apple.

My list from the Miscellany article:

Calville Blanc D'Hiver (1627)	Grosse Mignonne (1667)
Court Pendu Plat (16th century-possibly Roman)
Devonshire Quarendon (1690)	Nectarine
Drap d'Or (=Coe's Golden Drop?)	Early Violet (1659)
Lady Apple (1628)
Old Nonpareil	                                                  Pears
Pomme Royale	                 Buerre Gris (1608)
Reinette Franche	                Rousselet de Reims (1688)
Roxbury Russett (Early 17th century)	Bartlett (Williams Bon Chretien)
Scarlet Crofton	                        "of ancient origin"-may or may
Sops of Wine 
not be pre-1600.
Summer Rambo (16th century)
Winter Pearmain	Plums
Fenouilette Gris	Green Gage (Reine Claude)
Golden Reinette	Prune d'Agen





>To approximate medieval culinary apples, you would need to find an orchard
>growing the old vintage varieties.

Or grow your own--there are a number of nurseries that sell the old varieties.

David Friedman
Professor of Law
Santa Clara University
ddfr at best.com
http://www.best.com/~ddfr/
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At 5:28 PM -0700 10/27/99, Catherine Keegan wrote:


<excerpt>For Apples, all of the grocery-store varieties are modern.  

</excerpt>

Depends on the grocery store. It used to be the case that stores around
Pennsic cometimes carried Summer Rambo (Rambeau d'ete), which is a
period or perhaps early 17th c. variety. And lady apples, which are
supposed to be period, occasionally show up in grocery stores.






<excerpt>The variety

"Court Pendu Plat" (or "Corps Pendu")  is supposed to date from at
least

the 1590's and may actually be derived from the old Roman variety
called

Sementinum... according to one of the catalogs.  I think at least one

reference claimed that "White Winter Pearmain" was originally a 13th

century variety.   And Frank Browning mentions in his book "Apples," 
that

the rootstock variety now know as "M9" is actually derived from the

"Paradise" apple that was popular from the 13th century; it was
supposed to

be a small yellow apple.  

</excerpt>

My list from the Miscellany article:


<fontfamily><param>Times</param><smaller>Calville Blanc D'Hiver
(1627)	Grosse Mignonne (1667)

Court Pendu Plat (16th century-possibly Roman)

Devonshire Quarendon (1690)	<underline>Nectarine

</underline>Drap d'Or (=Coe's Golden Drop?)	Early Violet (1659)

Lady Apple (1628)

Old Nonpareil	                                                 
<underline>Pears

</underline>Pomme Royale	                 Buerre Gris (1608)

Reinette Franche	                Rousselet de Reims (1688)

Roxbury Russett (Early 17th century)	Bartlett (Williams Bon Chretien) 

Scarlet Crofton	                        "of ancient origin"-may or may

Sops of Wine	                                                       not
be pre-1600.

Summer Rambo (16th century)

Winter Pearmain	<underline>Plums

</underline>Fenouilette Gris	Green Gage (Reine Claude)

Golden Reinette	Prune d'Agen






</smaller></fontfamily><excerpt>To approximate medieval culinary
apples, you would need to find an orchard

growing the old vintage varieties.  

</excerpt>

Or grow your own--there are a number of nurseries that sell the old
varieties. 

David Friedman

Professor of Law

Santa Clara University

ddfr at best.com

http://www.best.com/~ddfr/

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