SC - Lighting for cooking and camp

[Jennifer Rushman]

I think that the most fun I had with this was with a young lady (college
student) who was against using animals for anything, including food, medical
experimentation and clothing.  (I hasten to explain that I do not approve of any
form of cruelty to animals and am very much in favor of protecting animals that
are endangered).  She was being especially critical of the fact that I have a
coyote fur collar that serves as trim on my cloak (it is at least 30-40 years
old, and I'm sure I'm at least the third or fourth person to use it...I got it
at a swap meet).  She said that nothing that comes from any animal should be
used as clothing.  I asked her what her shoes and belt were made of.  When she
told me that they were made of leather, she got this really sheepish look (no
pun intended) on her face and apologized!

Kiri

Siegfried Heydrich wrote:

>     Please forgive me, but I find such affectations to be amusing at best,
> and extremely annoying at worst. There are people whose diets preclude
> animal products, but I strongly suspect the  total number of these people on
> the whole bloody continent wouldn't fill a middle school auditorium.
>     I have, however, found that there are a large number of ostentatiously
> 'politically correct' people (and they ALL wear silver pentagrams - a hint
> for anyone looking for a topic for their doctoral thesis - does new age
> theology induce allergies? or is it just wearing silver pentagrams that does
> it?) who will subject you to a half hour diatribe on the topic du jour
> (whatever appeared in last months issue of Mother Jones) if you suggest
> serving it to them. I'm also sick unto death of people using 'allergies' as
> an excuse for 'I don't want to eat that'.
>     If they have an ethical / moral problem with eating animal products or
> byproducts, I suggest they READ the ingredients list on their food. If they
> actually do so, they'll find that unless you move out to the commune and
> grow your own food, It's IMPOSSIBLE to escape animal fats, partially
> hydrogynated oils, tuna tainted dolphin, or whatever it is they're all
> haired up about this week.
>     When I do a feast, I'm less than concerned about ANYONE'S political /
> social / moral sensitivity. All I want to do is to put out a really good
> meal (under budget). If anyone has a legitimate health concern, I'll work
> with them, and do what I can to accommodate them. But it really irks me when
> someone promotes their political agenda under the guise of their dietary
> constraints. Grrr . . .
>
>     Sieggy (who got kvetched at by one of the Enlightened while at the BoD
> meeting. which was as exciting as watching butter melt)(and yes, she was
> wearing a silver pentagram)
>
> > My understanding is that "vegan" applies to those who will not eat
> anything that
> > contains any animal product, including cheese, milk, butter or eggs.  I
> believe
> > that those who will eat the above are referred to as ova-lactoid or
> something
> > along those lines....
> >
> > Kiri (who is hoping she won't be laughed at because she can't remember the
> eact
> > term...even though she has several friends who are this type of
> vegetarian)
> > >
> > > <<   Also how vegan is vegan?  I have had people say that are vegan &
> > >  they can or can't eat cheese; can or can't eat any Milk product; can or
> > >  can't eat eggs; can or can't eat fish; even one person who objected to
> > >  Honey as an animal by product.  There fore this challenge:  tell me a
> > >  complete period feast of 3 removes with at least 2 courses per remove
> that
> > >  would not have any dishes objectional to any vegan person. >>
> > >
> > > It takes all kinds.  I have the people who say they are vegans, but will
> eat
> > > chicken or fish.  I would tend to think that being a strict vegetarian
> (after
> > > looking in vegetarian cookbooks) implies vegetables only.  No animal fat
> or
> > > animal byproduct. No milk, cheese, eggs, butter.  There are all kinds.
> I
> > > would expect that  it would be hard to do a completely vegan course that
> is
> > > cuisine period.  I will do some looking and see what I come up with.
> > >
> > > Aldyth
>
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