[Fwd: Filo/phyllo-- was [Re: SC - duck and bread]]]

[Elaine Koogler]

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Well, it looks like webbing the article is not a possibility.  As
another noted, Brill would probably not be amenable to giving us
permission to reprint.  So.  I guess you all will have to find a copy
for yourselves and Xerox it.

I could probably arrange to make two or three photocopies and would be
willing to do so and send those out to anyone who absolutely can't get
to a copy of the original and who are really interested in having a
copy.  If this is you, respond to me privately with your address.

Kiri (but you didn't get it from me!!)

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From: "Paul D. Buell" <tbuell2 at home.com>
To: "Elaine Koogler" <ekoogler at chesapeake.net>
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Subject: Re: Filo/phyllo-- was [Re: SC - duck and bread]]
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:10:01 -0700
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Alas, I don't hold the copyright. The publisher, Brill will probably sue
you, so don't. I think you can quote a short excerpt or two from it,
however. Best if people make their own copies from a book copy. I don't make
the rules. Paul

PS: Perhaps you could write to Brill and get permission to post the 12
recipes, for example, with full reference to the book. They can grant the
right, but I cannot.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Elaine Koogler" <ekoogler at chesapeake.net>
To: "Paul D. Buell" <tbuell2 at home.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: Filo/phyllo-- was [Re: SC - duck and bread]]


> Thanks for the information.  I'll pass it on.
>
> By the way, there is a lot of interest on the list on the article that you
sent
> me a copy of.  How would you feel if I scanned the pages in and posted
them on a
> web page that I host?  That way the others on the list could benefit from
your
> wonderful information.  If it's ok and we're able to get it to work, I'll
let
> you know where it is and how to access it so you can see what I've done.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Elaine
>
> "Paul D. Buell" wrote:
>
> > OOPs. Gene did most of the cooking (most of the stews). Olav Hekala did
the
> > rest. Can't remember who decided to substitute semolina. Think it was
moi.
> > The substitution was because this is what is done with similar recipes,
with
> > the same name, but more a cake today, in the Middle East. We felt that
the
> > bean paste was little more than a local adaptation to make up for the
lack
> > of durum in China, at least durum for flour.
> >
> > Sugar is more crush crystal sugar than fine white sugar. We just used
grain
> > sugar.
> >
> > Buell
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Elaine Koogler" <ekoogler at chesapeake.net>
> > To: "Eurgene Anderson" <gene at ucrac1.ucr.edu>
> > Cc: "Paul D. Buell, Independent Scholar" <tbuell2 at home.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 2:30 PM
> > Subject: [Fwd: Filo/phyllo-- was [Re: SC - duck and bread]]
> >
> > > Dr. Anderson,
> > > I'm a correspondent of Paul Buell's, and am working up a feast for the
> > > SCA in which I hope to incorporate some of the recipes from "A Soup
for
> > > the Qan" as well as from the article on Turkish influences on Mongol
> > > cookery that Paul wrote.  Paul indicated that you were the one who
knew
> > > the most about the reconstructions that you and he had done of the
> > > recipes and could probably answer our questions most accurately.
> > >
> > > I'm forwarding to you a message from the SCA Cook's List regarding the
> > > proto-baklava recipe, Güllach.  Paul had indicated that you all
> > > substituted semolina flour for the beans that were indicated in the
> > > recipe.  Several people asked about that substitution...how you
> > > justified that "leap" from what the recipe called for.  Another
> > > suggested that perhaps a bean flour similar to soy flour might have
been
> > > used.  And, as you can see in the forwarded message, there is a
question
> > > about white powdered sugar.
> > >
> > > Any assistance you can provide would be appreciated.  I may also have
> > > some questions of my own regarding some of the Mongol dishes...we're
> > > considering doing one of the lamb/mutton stews, for instance.  Please
> > > don't hesitate to let me know if it's too much of an inconvenience to
> > > help us out!
> > >
> > > Thanks so very much for your assistance!
> > >
> > > Elaine Koogler
> > >
>



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