SC - Haggis and Strawberries

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The Adrian "cut off" date is now 1603.  Passed in the Imperial Estates 
Meeting in July 1999.
The point was that the  authentisity of the primary source was not 
questioned untill the entrant started to complain.  Then one of the judges 
offered his laptop and cell phone to "check the source". Weak documentation 
was sighted  as well as the large pieces of strawberrys that were present in 
the "jam", as the reasons for docking points.

  Lady Katherine McGuire


>From: Susan Fox-Davis <selene at earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org
>To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org
>Subject: Re: SC - Haggis and Strawberries
>Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:34:46 -0700
>
>  Lady Katherine McGuire wrote:
>
> >   There was an incident, at another group's Imperial War last year.  A 
>entry
> > was made of a strawberry jam, I would have called it a compote.  As part 
>of
> > the documentation there was a quote from a on line dictionary that 
>stated
> > that a strawberry was found that was as "big as Queen Elizabeth's head" 
>and
> > the date was given as 1565.
>
>If the cutoff date for the Adrian Empire is 1500, that indeed would not 
>qualify
>as acceptable documentation.  I commend this page as an in-depth yet 
>accessible
>source on the history of the Strawberry:
><http://www.nal.usda.gov/pgdic/Strawberry/book/bokthree.htm>
>
> >    Now in my opinion, this is a error.  I looked up the reference but 
>could
> > not find it.  Maybe it was my bad computer skills or?  But in the same 
>A/S
> > tournament there was an entry of strawberry cordual.  In this 
>documentation
> > it was stated that the average size of strawberries, in the period, were
> > about the size of the a women's thumb nail. The entrant had used the 
>varity
> > of wild strawberries available, and had gone out of her way to make the
> > entry  as "period"  as possible.
> >   The first entrant was "upset" that her jam did not beat the cordual, 
>and
> > kept saying that it needed to be rejudged.  This was deigned by the 
>person
> > running the tournament, on the grounds that the judges were all A/S 
>Knights
> > equivalent to Laurels in the SCA.
>
>Phooey, I've gotten upset with Adrian arts judging to the point where I 
>won't
>compete at all.  What part of 'primary source' don't these people get?  
>*sigh*
>Well, I agree that the judging was probably correct in the first place, but
>better they should have cited weak documentation, if that was the case.  
>Mind
>you,  I don't enter contests in the SCA much either, I run them instead.
>
>Selene Colfox, in either game
>selene at earthlink.net
>
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