SC - Re: sca-cooks V1 #1894-Mundane Nobles

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  And I  have the dubious honor of being in the line of sucession for the 
Throne of the British Iles.  Due to several fortutious marriges my ancesters 
made. One in the time of "mad" King George and one to a branch of the 
Winsors.

  Morganuse the plain and humble.


>From: Kay Loidolt <mmkl at indy.net>
>Reply-To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org
>To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org
>Subject: SC - Re: sca-cooks V1 #1894-Mundane Nobles
>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 23:16:56 -0500
>
> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:24:51 -0600
> > From: "Michael F. Gunter" <michael.gunter at fnc.fujitsu.com>
> > Subject: Re: SC - just a question
>
>  has there ever been, either as a member of the SCA or as a guest,
>someone with a mundane title playing with us? wajdi
>
>Johann von Metten/Marcus Loidolt humblely responds:
>
>  Ah, well, ah, um, yes, there are mundanely titled people living among
>you. Until this past year I was titled 'Baron von Gussen'. There are
>others I know of, at least 8 knights, English and French, 2 German
>Princes and an Italian Count. Oh, yes, and an English/Scots Laird,
>though I can't remember his name right now. (Though I suppose as English
>he scarcely really counts as noble does he?!?)
>
>  The title was given to me when I inherited it from my great uncle on my
>fathers side.It was established in 1140 by the Emperor to sustain those
>members of the Hapsburgs who entered into the secular clergy, thus it is
>passed down to the next ranking clergyman in the family and then the
>state of Liechtenstein.
>  I resigned the title in favor of my cousin because I was becoming a US
>citizen and no longer felt 'called' to fulfill the office. Besides,
>after 1998 the Diet and Prince had 'relieved' the Baron of land and
>judicial power and had made it merely an honor on the highest ranking
>clergyman in the Principality,regardless of family.
>
>  Several year ago, when I was still titled, I took my great-aunt, Maria
>Terese, Grafin von Schellenburg, to a Drachenwald Coronet Tourney, in
>Cleves,(Ivarr was Prince) I think, and she enjoyed herself immensely!!
>Though she never really 'joined' on her own, she did pay for a
>membership and all. She never did develope a persona, but retained her
>mundane title and simply 'dressed up in period clothes' she even made
>her retainers (secretary, page, ladies maid, and chaffeur) dress up in
>antique livery!! I think we went to 5 events before she became too ill
>and died a while back. She remembered those times happily!
>
>Johann von Metten/ (of late, Baron Ritter) Marcus Johannes Karl Franz
>Josef Loidolt,(von Leichtenstien, von Gussen XVII)
>
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