Well, then, my lord, perhaps that would be more appropriate to answering a similar question about light bulbs and heralds? <big grin> - --Maire, who still don't speak heraldese after 12+ years! "Brian L. Rygg or Laura Barbee-Rygg" wrote: ><snip> > Can't be done. Lightbulb in a socket is metal on metal. . . . > > Brendan Pilgrim poet, rogue, scholar, and foole