SC - Hard versus soft wheat berries for frumenty?

[James F. Johnson]

um....ok, am I gonna be the first to ask for a dinner invitation!?

Diana d'Avignon

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> Adamantius,
>
> Keep the molds, but I could really use the snake knives: got any for 5'
timber rattlers?  Picture a paper-thin fillet, 4 feet long, coated with
herbed butter and fine minced garlic, rolled into a bracciole shape, poached
in white burgundy and served with it's thickened juice over basmati rice.
>
> We now return you to round 114.3 of the great C...y...e debate.
>
> Ragnar Ketilsson
>
> (snip)
> It is apparently used for the making of fruit-filled and other
> sectioned, breakapart chocolate bars. Roughly half an inch deep, it is
> divided into fifteen squarish sections, three by five. The total area
> dimensions? I'm glad you asked, friends! Approximately 1.5 times the
> length of the palm of my hand (a convenient measuring tool, neh?) in
> length. In breadth, three of my fingers. (Again, convenient, neh?)
>
> And, if you order before midnite tonight, they may throw in the free
> snake knives and the Potato Squeezer at no extra charge...get yours
> today!
>
> Adamantius
> - --
> Phil & Susan Troy
>
> troy at asan.com
>
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>
> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 20:14:10 -0800
> From: "Laura C. Minnick" <lcm at efn.org>
> Subject: Re: SC - Coffee, Tea, and OOP
>
> Hi everybody!
>
> I'm still trying to get caught up- hard when things keep coming in! A
> little like trying to paint the roof while it's raining...
>
> I was wondering, about the coffee/tea stuff, and noticing the scramble
> to come up with alternatives (tisanes, etc.)and it occurred to me- do we
> have any reason to believe that Sir Jay Random of England (or whoever)
> was in the habit of drinking hot drinks regularly? I'm not talking the
> occasional hot toddy or medicinal posset here. Think about your own hot
> drink (coffee/tea/herbal) consumption. We don't drink coffee for the
> sake of the 12 oz. of liquid- we drink it for the 'social' aspects- the
> behavior, not the beverage. We, modern folks mostly in North America
> (I'm trying to be diverse and inclusive here- how 'Eugene' of me!), have
> a whole CULTURE built around the consumption of hot drinks, mostly
> caffeinated. I see nothing like it- no analogue- in period culture. I
> don't think I've ever seen anything in an illumination that looks like a
> hot drink. No demitasse cups, no footed mugs, no cardboard cozies. In
> the inventories presented in wills, etc.- no espresso machines. No tea
> kettles. No fancy silver service. No gold mesh filters. No little mesh
> balls. No Krups or Braun grinders or brewers. No... well I think you
> have the idea.
>
> Did they REGULARLY drink hot drinks? How do we know?
>
> If they did, why?
>
> If they didn't, then why do we spend so much time on apologetics? Why
> not say "I know my coffee/tea/whatever isn't period. So I drink it in
> the privacy of my camp, and I will put period beverages in my mug/out
> for the encampment."
>
> Why spend all this time and energy trying to replicate what is a modern
> behavior? I suppose I could put cedar siding on my van and it might
> _look_ a little more like a hay wagon (HA!) but it would not _be_ a hay
> wagon, would it?
>
> Just some ponderings. Your Milage May Vary. Don't shoot the herald (he's
> too cute!)
>
> 'Lainie
>
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>
> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 21:24:09 -0700
> From: "k&t Radford" <ktradford at cyberport.com>
> Subject: Re: SC - handouts from cooks collegium
>
> Good Lady Elaina --
>
> I am one who is totally clueless when it comes to period cooking but I
> would like to learn more as I help out many times in the kitchen when ever
> I can at events.
>
> I would be interested in this manual that you have put together.  What
kind
> of information might I find in there?  Is it a complete manual for period
> cooking for those "dummies" like me who have no experience in that area??
>
> By the way I do hope that you enjoy crown here in the Outlands, as I am an
> Outlander.  But I do strongly recommend that you get a hotel room soon!!
I
> hear that they are filling up quickly!!
>
> I look foward to any information that you send =)
>
> Krysta -- of Fontaine dans Sable (Farmington, NM) Kingdom -- Outlands
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> > From: Mary Morman <memorman at oldcolo.com>
> > To: 'sca-cooks at ansteorra.org'
> > Subject: SC - handouts from cooks collegium
> > Date: Thursday, March 02, 2000 8:07 PM
> >
> > On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Browning, Susan W. wrote:
> > > Would it be possible to get a copy of the handouts from the Cooks
> Symposium?
> > > I was unable to make it this year.  Please let me know as to copying
> and
> > > shipping costs if you would be willing to make the copies.  Please
> reply
> > > directly to swbro at earthlink.net.  Many thanks.
> > >
> > > Eleanor d'Aubrecicourt
> >
> > the proceedings from the cooks symposium are available (or will be the
> > middle of next week) for $15.  checks to "Serve It Forth" and mailed to
> > Mary Morman, 1245 Allegheny Drive, Colorado Springs, CO  80919.
> >
> > And my apologies to those who requested information or ordered their
> > copies earlier, I had to make some changes after the conference,
> including
> > adding color illos to the article on feasts in Renaissance art (during
> the
> > event people got the illos as handouts).  The masters are now done and
go
> > to the printer on Monday.  I expect to do a mailing to fill all existing
> > orders on Monday the 14th when I return from Outlandish Crown in
deepest,
> > darkest New Mexico.
> >
> > Elaina
> >
> >
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>
> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 22:58:31 -0500
> From: Jehanne Argentee <jehanne at netzero.net>
> Subject: Re: SC - Allergies in general OT OOP
>
> On allergies...
>
> Not sure why more American's are allergic, though the genetic diversity
> idea sounds right to me.
>
> I was born with a severe (read: Nearly killed me several times) allergy to
> milk. No way my work environment could have caused that one. ;) It also
> makes me lend some credance to Nanna's theory on why there are no/few
> Icelanders with milk allergies.
>
> DO NOT TRY THE FOLLOWING AT HOME! SEE A DOCTOR FIRST!
>
> Sorry about that disclaimer. Under the supervision of a physician, my
> parents got me -somewhat- acclaimized to cows milk. Every day for the
first
> week they would take out one drop of soybean milk using an eyedropper, and
> replaced it with one drop of cow's milk. The next week, I got two drops a
> day. In this manner, over YEARS, my parents built me up a tolerance, so
> that instead of going from being fine to convulsions and not breathing, I
> go from feeling fine, to being lightheaded, to feeling feverish (though
I'm
> not) & sweating, to vomiting, to convulsions... Not sure if I could drink
> enough to make me stop breathing, and I'm not about to try.
>
> I watch what I eat carefully, and keep myself below the danger line. My BF
> watches out for me too, and asks me if I've had any milk today when I
> realize that the restraunt has Tiramisu for dessert. He especially watches
> out for me if I reach the "lightheaded" stage... I act pretty much as if I
> was someone who was a "giddy drunk" even though I haven't had a drop of
> alcohol. :P
>
> Between my own battles with milk, and a drug allergy doing my sister
> permenant harm, I treat all allergies with healthy respect.
>
> Jehanne
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> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 21:37:18 -0600
> From: "Michael Newton" <melcnewt at netins.net>
> Subject: SC - Kosher Plants Hygienic, HAH!
>
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> From: "Siegfried Heydrich" <baronsig at peganet.com>
> To: <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 7:29 AM
> Subject: Re: SC - Getting people to eat period food
>
>
> >     Yes, when we think of Kosher, Kasher is normally what springs to
mind.
> > What's interesting are the number of people who think that the practice
is
> > cruel, somehow. Certainly no worse than non-kosher slaughterhouses, and
> > certainly a lot more hygienic. The Rabbis answer to a higher authority
> than
> > USDA inspectors . . .
> >
> >     Sieggy
> >
> Excuse me, but now you're in my territory. . .
>
> As a U.S.D.A. inspector working at a kosher plant, I can firmly tell you
> this is a lot of bull. The Rabbis are not looking for either cleanliness
or
> disease in animals; what they are looking at is the intestines and organs
to
> see if, after slaughter, the animal still measures up to being considered
> Kosher. While the obvious things such as abscesses rule out kosher ,
others
> such as malignant lymphoma (which is a instant condemnable situation)
> are not _even_ looked for by the rabbis. In addition, Kosher plants have
> government waivers on certain areas. For example, on the poultry slaughter
> floor, birds are cold-picked instead of scalded because the rabbis insist
> that no heat is applied while the animal is on the kill floor. This is why
> the Kosher plants have exemptions for feathers left on the birds until
they
> reach some parts of processing (and at our plant, sometimes, not even
then).
> As to kosher plants being more hygienic than non, YOU HAVE GOT TO BE
> KIDDING! Both the pork plant in Waterloo, IA (when I did my pork
inspection
> training) and the turkey plant across the tracks are infinity more
hygienic
> than the post I'm currently posted at.
> (I would be rolling on the floor, laughing at this if it wasn't such a
> serious subject)
>
> Lady Beatrix of Tanet
> (Inspector Newton, FSIS)
>
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